Just seeing if anyone has first hand experience with either of these 2 traction bars for 90-93 integras.

the full-race is 438shipped and z10eng is 450 shipped. supposively the z10eng is "beefier" than the full-race. does anyone have any experience with either of these?

which hangs lower? tia..

 

anyone?

 

Geoff Racier designed the Z10 traction bars before he started his company Full-Race. The Full-Race traction bars are better than Z10's because Geoff realized a design flaw in the Z10 ones he designed and reengineered his Full-Race bars. I would choose Full-Race over Z10 any day. Just my $.02. They were both designed by the same person.

 

good info! thank you very much 98 spec r. the full-race bar is even cheaper and definately more pimp than the z10 anyhow..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98 Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Geoff Racier designed the Z10 traction bars before he started his company Full-Race. The Full-Race traction bars are better than Z10's because Geoff realized a design flaw in the Z10 ones he designed and reengineered his Full-Race bars. I would choose Full-Race over Z10 any day. Just my $.02. They were both designed by the same person. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn, that's great info. Makes my decision.

 

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Damn, that's great info. Makes my decision.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not knocking that guys info, but how do you know he knows what hes talking about???

i have no input, but i wouldnt base my purchase solely on one guy on honda-techs opinion..

 

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im not knocking that guys info, but how do you know he knows what hes talking about???

i have no input, but i wouldnt base my purchase solely on one guy on honda-techs opinion..</TD></TR></TABLE>

i've heard that info somewhere before, i wanted to confirm it. plus you always trust type arr owners

anyway hes in AZ, maybe he knows geoff from full-race.

 

can you run traction bars on a daily driver, or is this a no no?

 

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works great on a daily

 

what exactly do they do, just keep the wheels from moving forward and backwards? do they effect the up and down motion?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by numotive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what exactly do they do, just keep the wheels from moving forward and backwards? do they effect the up and down motion?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They eliminate the bulk and lack of rigidity of the front crossmember, replacing it with a more functional(and much smaller/lighter) piece.

 

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They eliminate the bulk and lack of rigidity of the front crossmember, replacing it with a more functional(and much smaller/lighter) piece.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nicely said... in short NO MORE WHEEL HOP!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by numotive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what exactly do they do, just keep the wheels from moving forward and backwards? do they effect the up and down motion?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is a good visual for ya. I am 100% pleased with my purchase and after replacing the stock crossmember with the Full-Race bars makes the car feel soo much more solid!



Ground clearance isn't really an issue unless you are just slammed

 

Just curious if you still can jack your car up using the same middle jacking point, or if you have to just jack from the sides when you have that crossmember installed.

 

good question.. id like to know too

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam92Teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious if you still can jack your car up using the same middle jacking point, or if you have to just jack from the sides when you have that crossmember installed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

traction bars(well in my experience full race and l con) you can jack the car up in the middle with no probs.

 

cool, it seems like since its lighter and stuff that it wouldnt support all the weight, but im sure its a quality enough peice to be able to jack up there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djay86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool, it seems like since its lighter and stuff that it wouldnt support all the weight, but im sure its a quality enough peice to be able to jack up there. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, i've slammed the crossmember on the ground, both corners, multiple times and it never phases it

 

how hard is it to install? i guess you would have to decompress/compress your springs?

 

take off old crossmember, bolt up new crossmember

 

^What he said

 

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anyway hes in AZ, maybe he knows geoff from full-race. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I sort of work part time for Full-Race. I am doing scientific research for them. I am working on my Masters of Science Degree in Mechanical Engineering at ASU and I am studying fluid dynamics and analysis techniques for turbocharger exhaust manifolds. So yes, I do know Geoff.

 

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Actually, I sort of work part time for Full-Race. I am doing scientific research for them. I am working on my Masters of Science Degree in Mechanical Engineering at ASU and I am studying fluid dynamics and analysis techniques for turbocharger exhaust manifolds. So yes, I do know Geoff. </TD></TR></TABLE>

awesome, good luck to you..

by the way i just ordered my full-race bar today from josh at first state motorsports. 425 shipped, best price around.

 

Bump,

Any Links to websites?

Thanks, Later

 

http://www.Full-Race.com