never seen incar from this track... so i thought i would post

rite clik save target AS

http://gscdownloads.com/leh/LehMXcityKAK.wmv

this is at 7400 feet above sea level so the car is gasping for air...


Modified by kingleh at 10:55 AM 11/14/2005

 

wat kind o rice mobiles are yall driving?

 

I envy your ability to operate a gear box.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPiFF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I envy your ability to operate a gear box.
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Those gear boxes are specially made for you to shift like that. Straight cut gears crazy Syncros. Even tought u need to use the clutch you can shove the shifter into the gears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EdoMoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Those gear boxes are specially made for you to shift like that. Straight cut gears crazy Syncros. Even tought u need to use the clutch you can shove the shifter into the gears. </TD></TR></TABLE>


the gear box in the vid is just a normal box... no straight cut gears or anything..

just has a tilton attached to it.. so that helps..

 

They have straight cut gears AND synchros? That doesn't sound right.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They have straight cut gears AND synchros? That doesn't sound right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Read it again

 

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What does that mean?

 

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What does that mean?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Means something That I cant afford, and is crazy compared to my ls tranny

 

what crazy synchros?

Aren't you eliminating the synchros when going to a straight gear gearbox?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what crazy synchros?

Aren't you eliminating the synchros when going to a straight gear gearbox?

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You want everything in writing and NOTARIZED.

 

Is it just me or is that guy's seat all over the place? I don't ever recall seeing a race seat moving that much from side to side.

 

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agreed, it was my first observation. Also, it looks like he is fighting the car a bit... maybe needs to be dialed in a bit more?

 

Straighth cut gears and synchros don't go together. The straight box uses dog engagment rings on the end of the gear, way different than a cone synchro.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leadfoot321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it just me or is that guy's seat all over the place? I don't ever recall seeing a race seat moving that much from side to side. </TD></TR></TABLE>

first thing i noticed too...

 

thats the point of the seat, it wont break but in an accident it will absorbe some of the enegry and not let it translate derictly to your body.

 

Cool video.

The seat did look like it was moving around a little too much for my taste. Maybe that's how it's designed, I don't know. I've just never seen a seat move that much.

Question for the driver; how did the seat feel?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leadfoot321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it just me or is that guy's seat all over the place? I don't ever recall seeing a race seat moving that much from side to side. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's kinda crazy how much it moves. Has to make driving the car much harder and is unsafe. Probably would fail the SCCA test.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats the point of the seat, it wont break but in an accident it will absorbe some of the enegry and not let it translate derictly to your body.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understand the point of an FIA seat, but if it is moving that much under cornering g's, I would suspect it would fail in a hard collision.

Edit: Should have made the above clearer. The seat is not the issue, it's the mounting. Thanks Eyal 951, you are correct.


Modified by leadfoot321 at 9:30 PM 11/14/2005

 

i think its mounting hardware has loosened, or its mounted onto flimsy metal. No way such a nice recaro is that bad quality.

 

The tranny seems like it has a multiplate clutch in it, once we put a clutchmasters 2 disc in my bimmer you can shift like that if your fast enough. In the other video I have seen of that driver the seat moved the same way so who knows whats going on

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eyal 951 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think its mounting hardware has loosened, or its mounted onto flimsy metal. No way such a nice recaro is that bad quality. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Every Recaro I have sat in has been noticably more noodley than any Sparco I have used.

 

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I understand the point of an FIA seat, but if it is moving that much under cornering g's, I would suspect it would fail in a hard collision. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because a seat flexes alot does not mean it will break. (excluding the mounting hardware).

I have a bunch of Lhe's video's from more then a few different cars IRRC and all the seats do this.

I have a recaro spg but i don't have any incar to see if mine moves like this

 

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I have never seen an in-car shot of any seat move this much. Anyone else?

I know that the glass or carbon buckets are supposed to flex as part of their function but this one seems excessive. Care to school me or some of the other comments that put this seat and its mounting into question, how is this good?

Like these:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's kinda crazy how much it moves. Has to make driving the car much harder and is unsafe. Probably would fail the SCCA test.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eyal 951 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think its mounting hardware has loosened, or its mounted onto flimsy metal. No way such a nice recaro is that bad quality. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The seat did look like it was moving around a little too much for my taste. Maybe that's how it's designed, I don't know. I've just never seen a seat move that much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a Momo Start and if mine moved that much I wouldn't be bringing these points up, but it doesn't flop around.

 

Leh commented a year or two ago that the GT3 Cup car seats are all like that.