Hey guys, well I got my car aligned about 2 weeks ago and finally got the chance to post a picture of the information of how the settings/degrees were and now are. he said the alignment before was TERRIBLY off cuz after the RA installation i didnt do this job b/c i alreayd needed new tires so i figured i'd save taht 60 bucks for once i got the new tires in and they are both complete now. Only thing is that the steering jerking motiion to the right seems a lot stiffer then to the left...why? more responsive to the right then to the left in other words and needs less rotation on the right side. The tires are re750's and are pretty good but seems a bit too soft/body rollish. when i jerk it left adn right car seems to react after i do it so causing the car to roll to the opposite side one extra time then it hsould n was like the so2s were. I got the chance to kind of see these tires on the freeway going at a decently high speed n the car seemed ok but a bit too wavy type feeling with these tires. Is it cuz i need to break them in more? or too much thread on it still? waht can it be? well, here is the picture. let me know.

BTW. i let the picture size stay as it was so you guys can see the very small numbers.

 

SO2's have better grip than RE750's. You will notice a big difference right there.

i would suggest running about 1.2-1.5 degrees of negative camber in the rear. That 2.3 is going to hurt your tire.

As far as the left and right thing, how is your dampening? (what settings are they at) Maybe they aren't set evenly. Get your car corner weighed. Most forget to do this but it is pretty imp't to handling when adding coilovers.

 

Factory specs are:

Camber:
F: 0 deg 30'
R: 1 deg 30'

Front caster: 6 deg

Total Toe(AP1)
F: 0 +/- 2 mm
R: 6 +/- 2 mm

 

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i would suggest running about 1.2-1.5 degrees of negative camber in the rear. That 2.3 is going to hurt your tire.

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not ture.. lol.... i got -2.5 in the rear and i have relatively even tire wear...

 

Because it spends most of it's time leaning?

 

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not ture.. lol.... i got -2.5 in the rear and i have relatively even tire wear...</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats relatively even wear, you still have camber wear. it will depend on driving style mostly, which is why i recommended -1.5 to him

 

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si.. lol... but it depends on the combination of camber and toe.. to make it wear evenly...

 

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thats relatively even wear, you still have camber wear. it will depend on driving style mostly, which is why i recommended -1.5 to him</TD></TR></TABLE>

i say he goes with a -2 in the rear.. (UK setting) with 0degree 20" toe... 0degree 40" total toe

 

Too much rear toe on an AP1 could worsen the already steep rear toe curve, but 40' is fine I guess. UK aligment on an AP2 works pretty well though.

 

UK alignment works well if you drive hard. if you don't, it only eats tires

 

Dylan likes it when his wheels do the gangsta lean.

 

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hell yeah.. cuase i'm just straight up gangsta.... whut whut... rofl

 

What size RE750's do you have in the rear? I mistakenly got 225's in the back when I got new tires, and the car really feels more unstable in the corners. By the time I realized my mistake, the exchange period had expired on the tires. Oh, well. A few more tiiiite burnouts and I'll be buying a new set.

 

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how about just one long burnout

 

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I'm not that skilled. Speaking of, have you guys heard of this new Kumho tire with a cherry scent?

 

first of all, its not scented ... just the smoke is red ... and thats old LMAO

they use it in Formula d ... just to burn out though NOT the actual drifting ...

 

I know, fool! I was just kidding around!

 

sure you were ...

 

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sorry for the late response, haven't been able to come around lately. sorry guys, but back to ur question, its 245 and on teh freeway it doesnt seem all that steady as u can feel the car jerk a lil bit through the curves of the floor i guess.

 

check tire pressure... also... check to see if you still have those two little plastic thingies on your front bumper (in front of your front tires).... lot of people have taken them off or have had them fall off.... these two little plastic things actually help stableize the car at higher speeds...

 

Yikes!

OK front camber and toe looks good. But they do not appear to have measured the caster. Caster should have been checked and adjusted so that it's at least pretty even on both sides. Caster, toe and camber are all fully adjustable on the stock S2000 suspension.

The back is messed up. Your camber is out of spec on both sides - too much camber on the left, too little on the right. "Too much" rear camber is a good thing on this car IMO. 2deg + in the back is fine for street driving, but you want both sides to be even, not a full degree apart. That should be fixed to at least even the two sides out better. Your rear toe is fine - within factory spec at .5 deg total, and pretty even left and right. (But of course, when they mess with the camber to fix that, they will whack the toe setting and the whole rear end basically has to be re-adjusted.) Toe and Camber are both fully adjustable on the rear of the s2000.

The "jerking" motion to one side could be due to a large variance in caster angle between the two sides. The lopsided rear camber could be a factor as well in hard turns.

Andrew

 

thanks! when i get teh chance iw ill give them a call and see what can be done.