k im about to buy a new ride and im honestly debating over the rsx-s and the si, so i wanted everyones opinion and which you would get and why....i would list my opinion but im really undecided......i wish i new which one was quicker, ive been searching on this subject everywhere but nothing found

what i like about the rsx-s

* leather
* nicer interior
* im thinking its quicker than the si cause of the fact that its lighter and it has more power

what i like about the si

* lsd
* better suspension
* probably a better aftermarket
* navigation

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...ber=1

car and driver says rsx is almost a second faster......

just look at your title..... i think this will be a fairly hard decision for the enthusiast.....

EDIT: i do like the fact that the RSX is still cable actuated throttle, not drive by wire.......


Modified by cmdr430 at 10:23 AM 11/11/2005

 

Thanks, that was a good add......if the rsx is honestly almost a second faster than the si, then i will be definately buying the rsx.....si seems like a really good car for autocross but i wouldve expected it to be faster than what is......i mean cmon think about it, its no faster than a 99-00 si......even with the added weight, i would expect it to be faster since it has almost 200hp......then again one of my friends (which i dont know if its true), says the si will be right there with the rsx-s.....but u guys htink i could rely in road and track ?

 

as far as the lsd issue, check out this thread......

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1423362

 

k so i dont understand then, the rsx-s is almost a whole second faster than the si and there gonna go and say that the new si is so potent that theyre gonna stop making the rsx ???....thats complete mantis *** if u ask me......leather,sweet interior,faster,nice looks.....i think ill take my rsx-s in milano red please.....i dont know, if the new si "is so potent" then why is the rsx-s almost a whole second faster.....somethings not right

 

Just remember that on an RSX Type S you can put a I/RH/E and Hondata reflash and put out some good numbers with just that combo. Get an OEM LSD for the RSX and your set in my opinion. I am debating between the same two cars but I just don't see myself driving a Civic anymore.

 

You guys kill me, how can you base purchasing a car on the 0-60 time? It's been well documented that while the RSX can do it in 2nd gear the Si needs a shift to 3rd... hence the slower time. The Si is definitely the better car on the track and for autocross... the street is up to you depending on what you are looking for. Just drive one and you'll know what I mean. Anyone I know who has (or had) a RSX and has driven the Si has said they'd trade UP to the Civic in a heartbeat.

 

SI

 

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This guy got it right for sure. However, the civic is drive by wire and has an uber ghay MAF sensor instead of the good old Honda MAP sensor. Still, I would consider the SI the better of the two overall.

 

I read somewhere the si beat the type s in the quarter mile. I think its a lighter car than the type s. Get a 7th gen and do the type s swap and beat em both.

 

i think performance wise, the si is more worth it. but i like the rsx-s exterior and interior look more. milano red=

 

I would rather have the Si with lsd+navi for the same price I would have to pay for RSX-S with no navi or lsd..But thats just me...And yea its a Civic,so what, it takes a real Honda enthusiast to love the Civic .. Just like "Honda Tuning" said, get use to this rear view of Civic Si in its cover....

 

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A few observations and comments:

The DC5 is an old design, first seen in 2001 and promulgated as the successor to the DC2, which we first saw in 1993!

The DC5 is Honda's first attempt at a McPherson suspension in that price range of car, and the DC5 is hindering Honda's marketing in some parts of the world because the big racing organisations have fired blasts at the suspensions of the DC5 and EP3 and then switched to the CL7 or CL9 (depending on which is available to them in their homologation rules).

The motor in the 2006 DC5 Type S has quite a bit more power and torque than the motor in the 2006 FG2 Si. Although I'm not aware of anybody who has said publicly that the cams in the current K20Z1 <u>are</u> Type R cams, enough people have slipped up and said that the K20Z1 cams are different from the K20A2 cams that we know something's up, and the K20Z1 is a very nice motor to drive, providing more felt torque at all RPM ranges than the previous K20A2 ever had. In fact, the K20A3 in the EP3 Si has more torque at low RPM than the K20A2 has at the same RPM!

There's a good reason, then, if the newest Type S is quicker than the newest Civic Si.

However, the basic platform of the FG2 is the newer, more advanced design, and maybe there are quite a few people who want that newest design and the factory installed LSD instead of opening up the transmission right away to install one.

In theory, for a number of reasons related to the new design, it's very possible that the FG2 Si will turn faster lap times than the DC5 Type S, given equal drivers in unmodified cars.

Considering, though, that the 2006 Civic Si is going to be selling at a premium for a few months, that makes the 2006 RSX Type S a very attractive proposition as an alternative.

I have driven both the 2006 Civic Si and the 2005 (same as 2006) RSX Type S.

If I were in the market for a new car and I could get the 2006 Civic Si for $20,000 then I would buy it.

However, if mandatory dealer options and market adjustments pushed the Civic Si close to the price of the Type S, then, IMHO, the Type S is the better buy. Because Acura dealers are also selling the $50,000 cars, they are also a little better tuned toward customer service and after-sales attention, and that could mean something to a younger person who just wants a nice car for a daily driver, and who does not really mean to do much modifying or high-performance track driving.

If there is a 2007 RSX replacement based on the FG2 chassis but with a 220 HP motor...that's going to be really interesting...and tempting.

 

Its not that big of a deal but you also get a much better warranty w/Acura. You're looking @ 4yr/50k, as opposed to 3yr/36k. I've seen Acura warranty some crazy things. Things that were obviously from abuse or neglect.

 

look plain and simple i just wanna know which one is faster in straight line performance (1/4 mile)...i dont do autocross but i do like to take turns here and there, so thats not anything big for me......i LOVE the way the exterior of the si looks better than the rsx, but i love the rsx's interior....yea the si has navigation but the rsx-s has leather and a nicer dash, it looks more elegant...honestly if the rsx-s is quicker by a good amount, ill go with the rsx...ive been doing ALOT of researh on both the cars cause im about to buy a new one.....the only thing holding me back is that im undecided......one thing that gave me a doubt about the new si is its 0-60 time, YES i know the gears mess with the 0-60 time but still.....ive seen some magazines say 7.4-7.6 and then ive seen some saying up to 7.7-7.8......now if u compare it thats a big difference then the rsx's 6.7-6.8.....im gonna keep reasearching but i just thought id share my opinion with yall.....Jesse

 

depends on what you like....
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i would much rather havve that suspension design...no bumpsteer

 

yea i like the new suspension as well....but i dont autocross

 

i personally like the interior of the RSX better... from what i have whitnessed *sp* the ladies like the RSX better... like when i park my 02 rsx next to a 7th gen the ladies tend to look more at mah car... but, you are looking at an 8th... but anyway..

id go w/ rsx.. its gonna be a while b4 the 8th gen civic gets some really good aftermarket parts for it

(when i say really good, i mean a FI... juice/blower/turbo)
..but if u goin all motor.... id still have to side w/ rsx.... maybe i just got a bias

 

Yeah ... get a car becuase "the ladies" look at it more. The only look at it more becuase all girls want RSX's and all girls drive RSX's. How many times have you seen girls driving Si's?

 

No offense but i dont really care what the ladies think, its MY car.....someones gotta do a 0-60 test and a 1/4 mile test on these twon, im dying to find out

 

I read:

RSX Type S - 6.2
Civic - 7.0

The #'s are from a car and driver comparison of the rsx v a cobalt ss, and the civic number is from a "sport tuner" or Honda Tuner, one of those racer mags.


Personally, my 2 cents...

Get the RSX Type S. If it's going to be your daily driver, get something that looks nice, and performs pretty damn well. The civic is great, but it's still a civic, and doesn't really look all that great (relative to the rsx). But that's my opinion.

performance shouldn't matter too much, they are both close to equal, and unless you're at the track, you won't likely feel a huge difference in your daily driving. My argument is more for looks (and the rsx has the civic beat imo).

 

The Si is suppose to be better than the RSX type S. I think I am going to get it becuase of LSD, stock Navi, and more. It's cheaper too, no more than $20,000.

 

The Si performs just as well as the Type-S, if not better in the handling department. Its got an LSD, and its a whole lot cheaper.

And you see like 10 RSX's just driving to the store, they are a dime a dozen, but they still look nice

Both are good.

 

k i know the si is under 20k or around there and its comes with lsd and navigation but what i really wanna know is why the rsx is almost a full second faster.....yes i know about the gears on the si but cmon a full second ???....i wish i could get an accurate 0-60 by the same driver and a 1/4 mile time to see......if the rsx is that much quicker im goiung with it, and ill add lsd later on

 

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Very interesting statement. We still do not know the price of the new si either. If the EX is close to 20k with navi I believe the si will be over 20K as well. Chances are you are going to see si's full of options so the dealer can bend you over. PLUS this is the first year for the si and the rsx's future is not certain. I say hold out for another year and make a decision then.