• A call to the IHRA technical department recently confirmed they are looking at the possible inclusion of the Pro Rear Wheel drive cars as part of their Torco Pro Stock division for 2006. The IHRA has hinted this could be a way to bring a younger demographic profile into the class as well as attract potential new sponsors. While the IHRA remains tight-lipped as to the chances of this taking place, sources indicate we could see a few of these cars on tour next year. It has also been said that V-6 participation will be limited.

As you will recall, the IHRA last introduced V-6 turbo technology into the class with Buddy Ingersoll in 1986. The combination was disallowed at the conclusion of the season when Ingersoll reached the final round.

Is it any coincidence this talk comes at the 20 year anniversary of Ingersoll's participation? If you are not familiar with this piece of history, we have it in a feature. "The day a V-6 ran Pro Stock." (11-8-2005)

Sounds like a cool idea to me

 

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Is it any coincidence this talk comes at the 20 year anniversary of Ingersoll's participation? If you are not familiar with this piece of history, we have it in a feature. "The day a V-6 ran Pro Stock." (11-8-2005)

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Where can we read more about this? where is the feature?

 

this was brought up before... the consensus is matt hartford and his car will be with the IHRA competing in their pro stock category next year

PRO RWD will definately look different next year
no Steph, no Hartford, maybe no Bullish(dragracecentral reports Streetglow may not re-up their sponsorship)

 

That rumor has been flying for a little while now. Some guys I know run an IHRA alcohol funny car told me about this a few months back and they are all for it. Thumbs up to IHRA for considering to add some more diverstiy to the class, it will be exciting.

I don't think the Pro RWD teams are ready for Pro Stock yet but I'm sure they'd be up to par in no time.

 

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no Steph, no Hartford, maybe no Bullish(dragracecentral reports Streetglow may not re-up their sponsorship)</TD></TR></TABLE>

may be old news but I didn't hear... where is Steph going?

 

http://www.competitionplus.com

Under the Dirt section.

Steph I believe is going sideways ...........

 

I don think PRO RWD should be in Pro Stock, IHRA pro stock in a NA V8 Mountian Motor class... where does V6 Turbos fit there?

If anything I think they should put the Rpo RWD cars ( if the wanna put them somewhere ) in Pro Mod... that would be a better match up... Nitrous or Blower or Turbo'd V6s... sounds better then Pro Stock, leave pro stock all motor.

Its my favirote class in the IHRA

 

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If anything I think they should put the Rpo RWD cars ( if the wanna put them somewhere ) in Pro Mod... that would be a better match up... Nitrous or Blower or Turbo'd V6s... sounds better then Pro Stock, leave pro stock all motor.

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what kind of times are the Pro Mod guys running? I think that the reason they were thinking Pro Stock is because the times the Pro RWD guys run is closest to Pro Stock times....

 

I have been told that 4 of the fastest Pro teams have been invited to run the IHRA Pro stock for 2006. According to the source, all 4 have accepted the invitation.

What this leaves the Sport Compact guys I don't know, but there are currently Pro cars being built for next season.

We are looking at adding the Outlaw 10.5 guys to the mix in Pro Outlaw, maybe we need to add the Pro 5.0 guys to the mix in Pro Compact/Pro RWD.

I like the Pro Stock cars, but I would rather see mostly fuel injected cars running the Sport Compact guys.

 

Do you guys know how fast IHRA pro stock cars are? They are A LOT faster then NHRA pro stock. If I remember right their record is in the 6.30 area.


Modified by uglyasscivic at 12:12 PM 11/10/2005

 

pretty sure the Pro RWD guys have hit 6.4x already... correct me if I'm wrong.

 

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That would be wicked! We have a local PRO 5.0 guy Joe Da Silva (6.60s) who travels all over to race his Mustang. Very Very Nice Mustang, and would fit into the class perfect as it looks good, 94+ body style with EFI.

Checkout http://www.funfordevents.com for more info. You can even checkout the 2005 Results, and 2006 Rules and scedule.

Seems that 6.45-7.10s seem to win events for them. Full fields and tough racing is what is needed.

 

Actually the record is 6.364 set in Rockingham, NC this year.

 

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Yes sir. They are VERY fast.

IHRA Pro stock records
E.T- ROBERT PATRICK, ROCKINGHAM Oct-05 6.360
MPH- FRANK GUGLIOTTA EPPING Sep-05 220.26

I love pro rear but I really dont think the can CONSISTENTLY run with IHRA pro stock round after round.

 

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whats the Pro RWD record or the fastest Pro RWD time whether it was backed up or not.....

 

I think Titan has been 6.4x, not sure if it was true or a testing rumor. Maybe someone else on here can verify.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zeropost...05036

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So True, Half these guys can't back up their runs, we have to be realistic to be in any profesional series you have to be "consistent" and no Import class is. Mountain Motors run 6.40, who in Pro RWD has run this number once, yet can do it all day long, if they let Pro RWD in IHRA I don't see anyone qualifieng. Here is the qualifying list of the last IHRA Race with the list of the NHRA Sport Compact English town qualifying pluged in

Psn Driver Vehicle ET Speed

1. Frank Gugliotta Thodos Motorsports Escort 6.403 218.51
2. Steve Spiess Spiess Construction Cobalt 6.406 216.97
3. Robert Patrick Purvis Cobra 6.407 217.81
4. Brian Gahm Gahm's Car-Truck Parts Mustang 6.433 215.93
5. Jerry Haas Dean's Casing Service Cavalier 6.436 215.82
6. John Nobile Nobile Trucking ZX2 6.438 215.27
7. Tony Gillig ASSC Racing Mustang 6.438 215.17
8. Daniel Seamon Citgo Escort 6.453 216.24
9. Rick Jones Quarter Max Cobalt 6.455 215.72
10. Doug Kirk Kirk Racing Mustang 6.460 216.79
11. Bert Jackson E-Love Racing Cavalier 6.461 216.27
12. Elijah Morton Escort 6.467 214.96
13. Pete Berner Performance Mechanical Mustang 6.468 214.04
14. Ed Machacek Cavalier 6.470 215.44
15. John Konigshofer Cougar 6.475 215.58
16. Larry O'Brien Bear's Performance Stratus 6.485 213.54
--------- Not Qualified ---------
17. Art Hodges Strange Engineering Stratus 6.509 212.36
18. Tommy Franklin Franklin Electric Cavalier 6.511 214.42
19. John Montecalvo Citgo Cobalt 6.515 213.84
20. Frank Snellings FAS Muffler & Tire Cougar 6.517 213.70
21. John Bartunek Pearl River Automotive Cobalt 6.527 209.85
22. Ron Miller Paone Brothers Cavalier 6.535 210.44
<U>1. Stephan Papadakis AEM '03 Civic 6.545@ 213.10&</U>
23. Michael Bruno Bruno's Truck Painting Cavalie 6.609 209.85
<U>2. Matt Hartford Summit Racing '04 Cavalier 6.674 208.84</U>
<U>3. Brad Personett Titan Mail Order '05Scion 6.684 214.04</U>
24. Wally Stroupe Stroupe Race Cars Grand Am 6.698 209.39
<U>4. Ed Marx '05 Celica 6.778 207.08
5. Matt Scranton Garrett - Ride Revolution '04 6.809 204.82
6. Ara Arslanian Bullish Racing '02Solara 6.926 197.10</U>
25. Chuck DeMory Holbrook Engines Escort 7.059 152.87
<U>7. Vinny Ten '05 350Z 7.062 191.02
8. Manny Cruz '87 RX7 8.169 144.12
9. Abel Ibarra '04 RX-8 8.335 198.09
10. Jose LeDuc '75 RX-3 8.629 119.60
11. Carlos Montano '97 MX6 8.697 153.61</U>
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Damn! What is making the Pro rear cars so inconsistent? Clutch setup or the turbochargers?. Are the IHRA prostockers running gas or meth?

 

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what kind of times are the Pro Mod guys running? I think that the reason they were thinking Pro Stock is because the times the Pro RWD guys run is closest to Pro Stock times.... </TD></TR></TABLE>


The heavy hitting pro mod guys are running 6.00's and i think 2 or 3 have been in the 5.90 range. 1 in an event and the others in testing. Also the IHRA pro stock guys run race gas and alot of them are fuel injected.Ihra has a whole different out look on racing than nhra has. IHRA is very lieniant and always open to new technology.

 

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The heavy hitting pro mod guys are running 6.00's and i think 2 or 3 have been in the 5.90 range. 1 in an event and the others in testing. Also the IHRA pro stock guys run race gas and alot of them are fuel injected.Ihra has a whole different out look on racing than nhra has. IHRA is very lieniant and always open to new technology.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your right about that... I just dont think FI belings ina NA class... thats why I think Pro Mod would be the place for the Pro RWD cars... maybe give them a weight break or something... let them run lighter maybe to get them in the 6.20-6.40 range.

I hate to say it, but Pro RWD guys will get slaughtered in the Pro Stock ranks of IHRA.. and not with the over all ETs, those guys hit the lights perfect EVERYTIME... and im not putting anyone down here, I dont cut perfect lights either... but I think its not the right place.

I think it all comes down to filling the stands, and thats what IHRA is about, thier all about the " show " and they will do anything to make the show better... I guess one cool thing would be we would get to see some Pro RWD guys here in Canada since there is two IHRA national events here...

 

I agree with you. how can you compare a turbo car to an all motor car. that like saying....hey lets add the blower pro mod cars to pro stock. Its all apples an oranges. I think IHRA is giving the PRO RWD cars a shot and seeing how many will come out and possibly give PRO RWD IMPORTS their own class. I don;t think they wanna make a class for them when only 3 pro rwd cars show up.

 

All three of Titan's cars have run in the 6.4x's

1st. Copper Celica at Atco, NJ in the finals ran a 6.49

2nd. Black Fire Celica at Topeka NHRA race ran 6.47

3rd Scion in testing before US Nationals ran 6.44 (we have post video of this in this section).

We have called the IHRA and I know we are probably going to run a few events at these races, we just have to look at the schedule and figure out all the races for next season.

 

I think what everyone is saying is Have they run them consistantly??? I know the cars have it in them. but alot of the IHRA teams could be PRO Bracket cars..lol running 6.40-6.30's. every pass.

 

Take a look at ProRWD last year and this year, the times that where "Records" last year where the times teams where averagin this year (at least the "good" teams). That being said some of the rules might be different for IHRA allowing more power to be made, more displacement, etc. It will take more testing but I think we're 1-2 years from being competitive in this field, the only way to find out is to race.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by naturalvx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take a look at ProRWD last year and this year, the times that where "Records" last year where the times teams where averagin this year (at least the "good" teams). That being said some of the rules might be different for IHRA allowing more power to be made, more displacement, etc. It will take more testing but I think we're 1-2 years from being competitive in this field, the only way to find out is to race.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i agree