Will the cheap coilovers wreck the shocks? or are they just cheap and crack? if so could I use my tein tech S lowering springs with the egay coilover perches?

 

yes yes no

 

are the 'ground control' ones any better? whats the difference in them? the meterials they are made out of?

 

ground controls will have a proper spring rate for you car, and wont break.

 

so the size of the spring is different? why couldnt I use the tech s'?

 

i dont know what the size of the ebay springs are. theyre junk. dont use them, dont compare anything to them.

you cant use regular springs with them because the lower part of the spring wont fit on the sleeve perch.

 

i second that the egay (hey i like that way of putting it) coilovers are junk. Mine haven't broken... but they are junk. The springs are waaaay to stiff for street use, they only give ya like 2 maybe 3 inches of travel (much shorter spring than stock) even when lifted up all the way. And on top of that they squeek and creak and make all sorts of stupid noises. And DEFINITELY DON"T USE THEM WITH ANY HIGH DOLLAR SHOCK/STRUT! Unless maybe the strut is aluminum... since aluminum doesn't rust (well technically it does, but it's not a bad thing with aluminum). Plus, i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the slide-on portion of them were to all crack in half tomorrow. But hey, i guess ya get what ya pay for.

Besides.... what's really the point of having coilovers? Do you own an alignment shop and have car tire weight scales... or just an itch to go through tires non stop...

edit: so yes they will ruin your shocks... might take a few months... but they will. Also... unless you have the coilovers adjusted to stock height or higher, the shocks are going to bottom out, probably very often, and that is extremely hard on shocks.

 

The only crack on my egay coilovers are at the top of one sleeve. It's where one of three worm screw goes into the sleeve to prevent it from moving up/down/sideways. I Never use that half of the sleeve, so I just redrilled/tapped them an inch lower. No squeakes either, and they use the GC type single perch w/screw rather than the dual friction type..

So far they've worked great for <$60. Rates are supposedly 450/350 (perfect for a heavier 4door on tokicos), no squeaks - nothing. Before I put the tokicos my car had the 'riding on bumpstops' feel due to OLD shocks, now I love it. Of course, they're the right diameter to run in front-size shock hats/rubber w/o the top metal perch they come with. To sum it up, its riding as good as my bro's ek with GC's, and no squeaks or bottoming out so far.


Question: care to explain how GC's won't ruin a strut but egays will? Is there something about how a GC 350lb/in spring rate is different from any other type of 350lb/in spring rate? Maybe you're confused with the idiots that use them to slam their car (which is what ruins their struts), not responsible users that don't have half their wheel tucked. Is it something about the 'cheapness' of the metal that somehow affects rebound to destroy the valves of the shocks? Does it somehow allow it to bottom out? It can only bottom out if it's too SOFT or set too low, not just by being too hard. And if you're really that adamant about their spring rate, send me another cheap $60 set from the guy I bought from and I'll test them on my neighbor's spring scale. When I used to help them race, they tested it with 150lb/in coils all the way to 1600lb/in coils.

As for your edit about a reason to run coilovers - its called a universal solution. Why should I pay $400+ more so that a company can design the coils 20+ more times to get a ride hieght THEY feel I need. Few coilover owners adjust their hieght more than twice a year, IF that much.

 

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Summed it all up for you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only crack on my egay coilovers are at the top of one sleeve. It's where one of three worm screw goes into the sleeve to prevent it from moving up/down/sideways. I Never use that half of the sleeve, so I just redrilled/tapped them an inch lower. No squeakes either, and they use the GC type single perch w/screw rather than the dual friction type..

So far they've worked great for &lt;$60. Rates are supposedly 450/350 (perfect for a heavier 4door on tokicos), no squeaks - nothing. Before I put the tokicos my car had the 'riding on bumpstops' feel due to OLD shocks, now I love it. Of course, they're the right diameter to run in front-size shock hats/rubber w/o the top metal perch they come with. To sum it up, its riding as good as my bro's ek with GC's, and no squeaks or bottoming out so far.


Question: care to explain how GC's won't ruin a strut but egays will? Is there something about how a GC 350lb/in spring rate is different from any other type of 350lb/in spring rate? Maybe you're confused with the idiots that use them to slam their car (which is what ruins their struts), not responsible users that don't have half their wheel tucked. Is it something about the 'cheapness' of the metal that somehow affects rebound to destroy the valves of the shocks? Does it somehow allow it to bottom out? It can only bottom out if it's too SOFT or set too low, not just by being too hard. And if you're really that adamant about their spring rate, send me another cheap $60 set from the guy I bought from and I'll test them on my neighbor's spring scale. When I used to help them race, they tested it with 150lb/in coils all the way to 1600lb/in coils.

As for your edit about a reason to run coilovers - its called a universal solution. Why should I pay $400+ more so that a company can design the coils 20+ more times to get a ride hieght THEY feel I need. Few coilover owners adjust their hieght more than twice a year, IF that much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rust.

Mine rusted out left front shock completely. There was lots of water was trapped between the two o-rings of mine, which caused the shock to rust through. Had i known about the issue when i first got them i would have drilled a drain hole just above the bottom o-ring and that would have fixed that.

I ran mine without being very lowered... no where near tucked, and bottomed out plenty often. I also drive on some of the worst roads a civic should be drived on like dirt roads or roads with pot holes and who knows what else.

I'm not saying it isn't a good deal for the money... it certainly is. I'm just saying they're not the best, and I would not recommend them.

But in reality i don't give a damn if he buys the egays or not... just telling my experience with them. Feel free to disagree.

As for the squeeks they're gone since i removed the stupid aluminum top plates all the way around and replaced them with the original rubber ring. Very few squeeks now.

 

what about doing such method? http://faq.ef-honda.com/index....ng=en

 

I had a set of Arospeed Coilovers on my wifes del sol and her car was low. It handled fine on stock shocks. There was no rust when I took them off.

 

I have KYB AGX with ground control! they are great for a street track car... you dont beat your car to death on the street but with the turn of a screw your ready for track.. I would recommend getting ground control with Integra spring rates... They will be a little bit stiffer. Sorry for my punctuation errors and such..

 

good shocks, bad springs. I had that setup and reverted back to stock springs and kyb agx struts after my throuough discust at wasting money on that useless crap. spend the extra bucks to get the right kind of springs... either gound control or whatever.... something thats actually made for your car.

 

my friend has ground control shocks/springs on his 98 ex and it rides like ****. my tokico shocks and springs ride smooth and handle like a **** over stock.

 

ground control shocks? surely you dont mean their line of advanced design suspension.

what shocks did he really have on...?

but i also am a fan of illuminas (like i said) and subtle amounts of spring, i actually run on stock springs and like it that way.

 

no nevermind. they were dropzone. forgive me. replace ground control with dropzone. dropzone SUCKS *****. i love my tokicos. damn its late.

 

ha, thats better.. err no i mean worse.... ok, more understandable... heh.

 

ya i got the tokico hp shock/spring setup. i like it. seems like the front sits a little higher than the rear though.