Which winter tires?
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Hey guys I need some winter tires for a couple of my cars. One is a 1999 civic si and the other is a 1991 crx si both with 15" rims. I am looking for a winter tire. Not an all season these will be on a seperate set of rims for winter only. Anyway I am looking for some recomendations. Im in NY so the winters aren't so horrible and they will be driven on pavement a lot and not only snow. I am looking for an affordable tire that will do good in the snow. ride comfort is not that important either. what would you recomend? they seem really expensive. I dont really wanna spend more then $90 a tire but if it will be safer ill pay it. Do you think an all season will be okay for what im doing? A lot of driving will be done whether the conditions are good or not so i would like a good tire. Any tips would be appreciated!
i posted about this a few months ago. i found some of these posts really helpful- https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1346844
i just picked up my Dunlop Graspic DS-2s for $71 each at Town Fair Tire
they are supposed to be one of the best in the snow, and they are Catagory A snow tires. So far, they handle pretty good, and the ride is just fine. i cant wait till it snows to try them out.
i just picked up my Dunlop Graspic DS-2s for $71 each at Town Fair Tire
they are supposed to be one of the best in the snow, and they are Catagory A snow tires. So far, they handle pretty good, and the ride is just fine. i cant wait till it snows to try them out.
There are a lot of excellent winter tires on the market. They tend to break down into two groups:
a) tires that have the very best traction on snow and ice, but have so-so ride and handling on days when it's not so cold; examples include the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50, Dunlop Graspic DS-2, and Michelin X-Ice. The Tire Rack calls these tires "studless ice and snow tires".
b) tires that have good traction on snow and ice and in cold, although not quite as good as the previous group, but they also have very good ride and handling characteristics on days when it's not so cold; examples include the Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 and the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2. The Tire Rack calls these tires "performance winter tires".
The choice between these two categories depends on the climate in your area, how much highway driving you do in the winter, how much you care about ultimate snow/ice grip versus ride comfort, whether you have another vehicle to use in the worst of winter, etc. Oh, and the tires in category (a) are usually significantly less expensive than category (b), which may be important. For example, I want the best snow/ice traction and I don't mind sacrificing some ride comfort and handling for those three months a year (mid-December to mid-March around here), and winter weather here in Chicago can be fairly nasty, so I have category (a) tires. But your priorities may be different, and you might (or might not) be better off getting the category (b) tires.
Once you decide on which category you want, you can look up tires in that category on the Tire Rack website and find one in your size.
Your Civic Si uses the 195/55-15 stock size, and many winter tires come in this size:
<u>Category (a)</u>:
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 $88
Dunlop Graspic DS-2 $70
Michelin X-Ice $89
<u>Category (b)</u>:
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 $113
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 $106
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2 $108
Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport $83
Your CRX Si uses stock 185/60-14 tires and 195/50-15 would be the best matching 15" size. However, the only winter tire available in 195/50-15 is the "category (b)" Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport for $55 each (yes, that's the price on the Tire Rack website, and no I did not type it wrong).
I know you said you have 15" wheels, but keep in mind that narrower tires are better for snow and winter use. If you still have the stock 14" wheels from your CRX Si, you would have several choices in category (a) in the stock 185/60-14 size:
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 $71
Dunlop Graspic DS-2 $53
Michelin X-Ice $69
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you think an all season will be okay for what im doing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would not recommend an all-season tire for your situation. All-season tires are compromise tires, designed for people who use them all year round. They don't perform as well in winter as a true winter tire like those listed above. Since you are looking for tires to use only in winter, get winter tires, not all-season tires.
a) tires that have the very best traction on snow and ice, but have so-so ride and handling on days when it's not so cold; examples include the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50, Dunlop Graspic DS-2, and Michelin X-Ice. The Tire Rack calls these tires "studless ice and snow tires".
b) tires that have good traction on snow and ice and in cold, although not quite as good as the previous group, but they also have very good ride and handling characteristics on days when it's not so cold; examples include the Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 and the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2. The Tire Rack calls these tires "performance winter tires".
The choice between these two categories depends on the climate in your area, how much highway driving you do in the winter, how much you care about ultimate snow/ice grip versus ride comfort, whether you have another vehicle to use in the worst of winter, etc. Oh, and the tires in category (a) are usually significantly less expensive than category (b), which may be important. For example, I want the best snow/ice traction and I don't mind sacrificing some ride comfort and handling for those three months a year (mid-December to mid-March around here), and winter weather here in Chicago can be fairly nasty, so I have category (a) tires. But your priorities may be different, and you might (or might not) be better off getting the category (b) tires.
Once you decide on which category you want, you can look up tires in that category on the Tire Rack website and find one in your size.
Your Civic Si uses the 195/55-15 stock size, and many winter tires come in this size:
<u>Category (a)</u>:
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 $88
Dunlop Graspic DS-2 $70
Michelin X-Ice $89
<u>Category (b)</u>:
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 $113
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 $106
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2 $108
Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport $83
Your CRX Si uses stock 185/60-14 tires and 195/50-15 would be the best matching 15" size. However, the only winter tire available in 195/50-15 is the "category (b)" Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport for $55 each (yes, that's the price on the Tire Rack website, and no I did not type it wrong).
I know you said you have 15" wheels, but keep in mind that narrower tires are better for snow and winter use. If you still have the stock 14" wheels from your CRX Si, you would have several choices in category (a) in the stock 185/60-14 size:
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 $71
Dunlop Graspic DS-2 $53
Michelin X-Ice $69
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you think an all season will be okay for what im doing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would not recommend an all-season tire for your situation. All-season tires are compromise tires, designed for people who use them all year round. They don't perform as well in winter as a true winter tire like those listed above. Since you are looking for tires to use only in winter, get winter tires, not all-season tires.
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thanks for the quick reply. that thread link was great i really appreciate it. as for nsxtasy group a is good. ill sacrifice comfort for better tires. also the civic si will have 15's and the crx will have 14's i still have the stock rims. for the civic should i get 195/55/15 or something thinner? 185 width?
Same for the crx stock size or go thinner then stock? Thanks a lot i really appreciate it!!!!
Same for the crx stock size or go thinner then stock? Thanks a lot i really appreciate it!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the quick reply. that thread link was great i really appreciate it. as for nsxtasy group a is good. ill sacrifice comfort for better tires. also the civic si will have 15's and the crx will have 14's i still have the stock rims. for the civic should i get 195/55/15 or something thinner? 185 width?
Same for the crx stock size or go thinner then stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would go with the stock sizes for both cars.
On the Tire Rack website (click here), you can read a side-by-side comparison test of the three tires shown above in category (a) for 195/55-15 for your Civic and for 185/60-14 for your CRX. Overall, the Blizzak WS-50 and the X-Ice finished about even, with the Dunlop significantly lower (but it costs less).
Same for the crx stock size or go thinner then stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would go with the stock sizes for both cars.
On the Tire Rack website (click here), you can read a side-by-side comparison test of the three tires shown above in category (a) for 195/55-15 for your Civic and for 185/60-14 for your CRX. Overall, the Blizzak WS-50 and the X-Ice finished about even, with the Dunlop significantly lower (but it costs less).
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