i want to upgrade my rotors on my rsx. there are two companies im looking at right now unless you guys have any more suggestions, Stoptech and Powerslot. i like the slotted rotors they have and they seem to be fairly priced. what do you think of these brands? should i try finding oversized rotors or keep factory size? (by the way im using factory 17s, so whats the biggest i can go?)

and next is pads....does anyone know a good set that stop good and minimize brake dust???

thanks

 

I have Rotora slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads. I love the setup..stopping power is noticeable. But the pads dust a good bit. I would keep factory size rotors. Unless your planning on having some crazy stopping power for racing or your doing it for show.

 

Just stick with the stock rotors and just upgrade to some AXXIS Metal Masters and ATE fluid. If you want to autox, move up to some Ultimates for starters. You won't get anything out of upgrading rotors under the stock caliper.

-Victor

 

fluid really helps too?

i was just thinking about getting stock sized slotted rotors with some better pads and see how things went from there....

 

I noticed a difference with my slotted rotors. I have been on Hawk pads for a while and the heat fade was almost completely eliminated. Then I had to get generic brand pads and the heat fade was back and horrible. Then I upgraded to slotted rotors and the heat fade was greatly reduced, not as well as the Hawks helped but it was a big difference. Then again thats high speed braking.

 

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Keep the stock rotors and get some Ferodo or similar pads together with braided brake lines and uprated fluid (ATE Blue Racing, Motul RBF600)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ReV LiMiT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want to upgrade my rotors on my rsx. there are two companies im looking at right now unless you guys have any more suggestions, Stoptech and Powerslot. i like the slotted rotors they have and they seem to be fairly priced. what do you think of these brands? should i try finding oversized rotors or keep factory size? (by the way im using factory 17s, so whats the biggest i can go?)

and next is pads....does anyone know a good set that stop good and minimize brake dust???

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What are you going to be doing with your car? Can't answer your question until you tell us that.

And yes, usually slotted/drilled rotors are a complete waste of money. The only thing drilled rotors are good for is saving weight IMO.

 

Expensive rotors are a waste of money, unless you are doing some hardcore racing (ie: 24 hour endurance races ) I use Autozone rotors and have yet to fade my brakes. It all depends on your pads. Get some good pads and you are good to go. I use Axxis Ultimates

 

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Agreed, but...use Carbotech Bobcats and you will never go back to Ultimates. The Ultimates are cheaper, though. But they dust more and I think lock up too easily.

But during an HPDE or something, even the Bobcat won't last long enough if you are on a brake-intensive track. Again, depends what the application is. The original poster hasn't said.

 

im not racing my rsx. i just want it to stop a little bit better, thats all. im looking for a good brand and/or a setup that can help me stop better.....

 

Stock (or equivelant) rotors, Hawk HPS or HP+, Axxis Ultimates, etc..... "performance street" pads and ATE superblue.
For bombing around on the street you shouldn't need more than that.

 

Sometimes people go for an aftermarket big brake kit for looks. Shoot you buy wheels for looks, why not fill them up with big bad brakes. STOPTECH kits are tested to actually shorten your stopping distances. Take a look at the Car & Driver/King Motorsports post about the RSX challenge.

So your car stops better, the pedal feels better, and your car looks awsome with big brakes. WHy stick with stock brakes? Because the cheapskates on this forum who cant afford a big brake kit say you need to stick to stock because you arent racing? Do you see every Porsche with Brembo brakes racing around town ALL THE TIME? nahhhhhhh

Brakes are one the the best final touches to a modded car Every other enthusiast of a non Honda manufacturer upgrades things like brakes, but for some reason the Honda crowd promotes being cheapos, "stick to stock, stick to stock" What gives? Go buy a Kia hahah.

 

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So your car stops better, the pedal feels better, and your car looks awsome with big brakes. WHy stick with stock brakes? Because the cheapskates on this forum who cant afford a big brake kit say you need to stick to stock because you arent racing? Do you see every Porsche with Brembo brakes racing around town ALL THE TIME? nahhhhhhh

Brakes are one the the best final touches to a modded car Every other enthusiast of a non Honda manufacturer upgrades things like brakes, but for some reason the Honda crowd promotes being cheapos, "stick to stock, stick to stock" What gives? Go buy a Kia hahah.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats because Stoptech charges $2000 per axle and does enough homework not to modify the Pressure/volume ratio of the brakes so far to the point where it makes the ABS go batty and eliminate all hope of an advantage. Most of these cheapo kits use off the shelf calipers that aren't necessarily set up for any particular application, and as a result your ABS goes nuts, tripping it early or not at all and it doesn't help your cause. The pressure in the lines also doesn't increase, so pushing on huge pistons with the same force decreases the pressure you're exerting on the brakes. Most of the Stoptech kits I've seen use pretty small pistons, but use 4 of them instead of 1, so they press evenly over the area of the pad, but aren't so huge they need lots of fluid pressure to move them.
The other thing is there's no point in doing it if you can hold the car down with what you have. What kills brakes is heat, Honda's are pretty light cars. It takes quite a bit less to pull it to a stop, so you don't need 16" rotors to do it. Unless you're putting down so much power that you can nuke the brakes, you really don't need them, you sure as hell don't need them to just toodle around town.

 

I think upgraded rotors are a waste of money. I've tried slotted before and they warped just as quick as my stock ones did (this was on another car) but cost me a lot more money.

Autozone rotors were my favorite because I could buy 4 of them for the price I payed for one slotted or cross drilled.

Just get some better pads and fluid and I doubt you would be disappointed with your setup on the street. You shouldn't need anymore braking power than fluid/pads couldn't solve on the street. If you do I'm fearing your driving habits.

Check out cobaltfriction.com. Give them a call and speak with a representative. They are very good at setting people up with the proper pad for the right application.

 

lol autozone rotors are that cheap???

 

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Yes, they are.

In most hobbyist applications, upgrading the brake pads and using cheap rotors is the better thing to do.

<u>Most</u> track day students who think they are "cooking" their brakes and/or warping rotors are doing it because they are over-using the brakes by applying them for longer periods at less than threshold efficiency.

There will come a time that you are maxing out the OEM sized rotors because you get fast enough that using your brakes almost perfectly (threshold almost all the time, when they're on) will still cause you to wear out the rotors and they will tend to develop hairline cracks and need to get changed out before they crack all the way through.

At this point you'll have a choice to make in deciding whether you want to buy a big brake kit with bigger rotors or just keep replacing your stock sized rotors two or three times a year.

Slotted and cross drilled rotors do not seem to make a lot of sense to me in most applications because you are reducing the surface area of rotor that's available to the brake pad. It seems to me to be a move in the wrong direction for <u>most</u> of the people that are considering it.

 

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Slotted and cross drilled rotors do not seem to make a lot of sense to me in most applications because you are reducing the surface area of rotor that's available to the brake pad. It seems to me to be a move in the wrong direction for <u>most</u> of the people that are considering it.

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that makes sense.... i never really thought of it that way. i think for now, i might just pick up a good set of pads, thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HapaHaole &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sometimes people go for an aftermarket big brake kit for looks. Shoot you buy wheels for looks, why not fill them up with big bad brakes. STOPTECH kits are tested to actually shorten your stopping distances. Take a look at the Car & Driver/King Motorsports post about the RSX challenge.

So your car stops better, the pedal feels better, and your car looks awsome with big brakes. WHy stick with stock brakes? Because the cheapskates on this forum who cant afford a big brake kit say you need to stick to stock because you arent racing? Do you see every Porsche with Brembo brakes racing around town ALL THE TIME? nahhhhhhh

Brakes are one the the best final touches to a modded car Every other enthusiast of a non Honda manufacturer upgrades things like brakes, but for some reason the Honda crowd promotes being cheapos, "stick to stock, stick to stock" What gives? Go buy a Kia hahah.</TD></TR></TABLE>

While I think the Stoptech big-brake kits are awesome, you really don't need them for autox, HPDE's and especially for street driving. A good pad on a new rotor will haul the car down just as good as long as nothing is faded. As well, you can only 'stop' so much on a 205 street tire as it is. I've used pads that completely overwhelm street tires in an autox situation and have had to step back a compound to get better braking.

Also, I've seen people put on big brake kits and wonder why their car accelerates slower on the street. Just like big blingin wheels, BB kits are heavier and take more power to get going.

 

Honestly for the amount of money you would spend on a BB system you could easily have Cobalt GT sport brake pads and entry money for a NASA hpde event to learn how to drive you car.

The guy posting about the "bling" and how most honda's are chepos seems to be a joke.
Most enthusiast who track thier cars would rather spend the money else where then to have looks on track.
I see no point in getting a bb system if you are not going to use it to its full potential.
I track my DC5 quite hard and have yet to need a BB system. I got pads, Stoptech SS lines, and ATE super blue and have loved them since.

Save the cash and get something else you will need.. better tires.
Brakes only do some much keep in mind you will need a better tire to improve stopping.

 

having stickier tires will help braking distance.

 

Progressively work your way up the Brake improvement ladder. Alot of what the others say are really true. Flush the system and use a top quality fluid. Brake fluid contaminates way easier than most people think. Step up to some stainless steel flex lines. A quality pad on stock rotors will act like a whole new system in some cases. After learning and watching drivers at enduros, like at VIR and Summit Point, technique is the cheapest and most effective improvement anyone can make.
As for the brake dust, my thoughts have always been, if there is break dust, then the pads are doing their job. If the pads are wearing then the rotors aren't. High metallic content pads can kill rotors quick. That why you see alot of the high end brake systems are going to the organic/carbon/ceramic setups. They give the performance of the old school metallic pads with out tearing-up the rotors. I would rather have to replace pads more often than the rotors. You should also watch the your torque numbers and patterns when bolting on your wheels. To much torque on hot rotors can turn then into gigantic pringles chips.
Hope some of this helps.