hey guys. on my prelude i have skunk2 coilovers and tokico illuminas and im maxed out in the front and im not even tucking tire while the back is tucking tire and i still got like an inch left to go down. i wanted to know what brand out there makes a decent shock/coilover combo kit that i can buy seperatly (just front) that have a long sleeve were u can lower the front more then the skunk2's? thanks

 

can anyone help?

 

To give you a heads up, you will see no performance benefits from lowering the car that much.

 

you can tuck alot of tire with those, i had the same exact set up, you have the sleeve wrong, switch the fronts to the back and back to the fronts, longer ones go in the rear and the shorter ones go in the front, thats why you can slam the rear

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can tuck alot of tire with those, i had the same exact set up, you have the sleeve wrong, switch the fronts to the back and back to the fronts, longer ones go in the rear and the shorter ones go in the front, thats why you can slam the rear</TD></TR></TABLE>
nooo way. the sleeves are wrong. thats sucks ill give it a checkk tomorrow man thanks

 

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nooo way. the sleeves are wrong. thats sucks ill give it a checkk tomorrow man thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually i jacked the car back up today to check it out and it seeems that the shorter sleeves are in the front and the longer ones are in the back??? i have like a good 10 threads still to go in the back and the front is maxed out???? anyone?

 

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dont slam your car. thats stupid and pointless. your jsut gona wear your frame and springs and shocks and tires and everything else out. cars dont come 4 inches low for a reason.

 

i dont want to slamm the car i just want it to sit lower then it already does. just help me with the suspension problem im having. the front isnt going any lower and the sleeve is maxed out. while i still have another inch or so on the rear sleeve and its lowww. one person said something could be stuck in the front or one person said the bump stops can be the problem but those are cut so i dunno. but im really scrathing my head on this one. heres a pic. so u can see what im saying


thats the lowest the front will go and the back i can go probably another inch or 2 down....... ???

 

i dont now, i still say that the longer sleeves are in the front and the shorter ones in the back, the longer one are long so they can sit in the cup more on the shock

 

On a coilover with adjustable lower mounts and fully threaded body, you could lower as much as possible with the lower mount, and then lower the spring perch until it hits the lower mount as well. You want tucked tires, there you have it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a coilover with adjustable lower mounts and fully threaded body, you could lower as much as possible with the lower mount, and then lower the spring perch until it hits the lower mount as well. You want tucked tires, there you have it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks but im no mechanice and not too familiar with suspension terminology. can u explain in simpler terms?

 

just so you know... your car is at an even ride height right now(with a little bit more gap in the front tire)... if you want the gap to be even then the front tire's gap will be a lot less than the back.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just so you know... your car is at an even ride height right now(with a little bit more gap in the front tire)... if you want the gap to be even then the front tire's gap will be a lot less than the back.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats cool im not looking for an even ride height anyway i want to front about half inch lower then the back.

 

Sure thing.
The term "coilover" is used to describe 2 different kinds of shock/spring combinations on the market.
Coilover was originally used to refer to a damper with the length of its body threaded, so that the adjustable spring perch (a collar that the spring rests on) can move freely up and down the shock body, for height adjustments. Some designs take this even further, making the lower mount (where the damper attaches to the control arm) adjustable as well, so that it can move up and down on the damper's threads. This gives two ways to adjust height (although its not recommended to use the spring perch to adjust height if you have an adjustable lower mount to do the job). The coilovers that use this design are usually utilize shortened, thicker dampers as well (when compared to stock dampers, or aftermarket ones).
The other type of coilover is really a threaded sleeve/tube with an adjustable spring perch on it, that slips over an existing damper (which don't have threads on their bodies). This effectively turns that damper into the same type of adjustable coilover as above, only the height adjustment is a bit more limited (the bottom mount is fixed to the damper itself, and the sleeve/tube usually does not cover the entire length of the damper). This is what you have, I'm pretty sure. The height adjustment on this type of setup is limited to the range provided by the sleeve only.
I'll put up pictures when I get home if this is unclear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sure thing.
The term "coilover" is used to describe 2 different kinds of shock/spring combinations on the market.
Coilover was originally used to refer to a damper with the length of its body threaded, so that the adjustable spring perch (a collar that the spring rests on) can move freely up and down the shock body, for height adjustments. Some designs take this even further, making the lower mount (where the damper attaches to the control arm) adjustable as well, so that it can move up and down on the damper's threads. This gives two ways to adjust height (although its not recommended to use the spring perch to adjust height if you have an adjustable lower mount to do the job). The coilovers that use this design are usually utilize shortened, thicker dampers as well (when compared to stock dampers, or aftermarket ones).
The other type of coilover is really a threaded sleeve/tube with an adjustable spring perch on it, that slips over an existing damper (which don't have threads on their bodies). This effectively turns that damper into the same type of adjustable coilover as above, only the height adjustment is a bit more limited (the bottom mount is fixed to the damper itself, and the sleeve/tube usually does not cover the entire length of the damper). This is what you have, I'm pretty sure. The height adjustment on this type of setup is limited to the range provided by the sleeve only.
I'll put up pictures when I get home if this is unclear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes exactly its a sleeve that goes over the damper and its a limited setup so i dont get how i can do it. also what do u mean by lower mount??? and how this can be adjustable as well?thanks a bunch

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludaboy93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it seeems that the shorter sleeves are in the front and the longer ones are in the back??? i have like a good 10 threads still to go in the back and the front is maxed out???? anyone?


thats the lowest the front will go and the back i can go probably another inch or 2 down....... ???</TD></TR></TABLE>


get even shorter springs for the front then. you can get them individually from ground control, any size, any spring rate.

 

you can flip the sleeve in front upside down that way the thread goes all the way to the bottom of the shock, if you installed it the correct way, the sleeve ususally has a lip where there are no threads on the bottom so you cant lower it any further when you get to that point b/c you cant screw the perch down any lower but if you flip the sleeve upside down it'll let you lower your car a little bit more since you'll be able to screw the perch down lower, i use to do that when i was into the slammed look.

 

i think it looks fine now, for real
no need to expletive yourself and your car

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by areyouasian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can flip the sleeve in front upside down that way the thread goes all the way to the bottom of the shock, if you installed it the correct way, the sleeve ususally has a lip where there are no threads on the bottom so you cant lower it any further when you get to that point b/c you cant screw the perch down any lower but if you flip the sleeve upside down it'll let you lower your car a little bit more since you'll be able to screw the perch down lower, i use to do that when i was into the slammed look.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks man. would that be bad for the shocks or anything? cuz i was thinking the same too i can score about a half inch if i would flip the sleeve. i was actaully gonna cut that little bit off but now i guess i can jus turn it upside down. thanks.

 

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thanks man. would that be bad for the shocks or anything? cuz i was thinking the same too i can score about a half inch if i would flip the sleeve. i was actaully gonna cut that little bit off but now i guess i can jus turn it upside down. thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you have stock stocks riding too low will blow them out, im not sure about aftermarket market shocks b/c once i blew out my stock shocks i went a w/full coilover system but didnt really ride slammed anymore.

 

the drop looks even front to back, but look at how much higher your front wheel well is than the rear

 

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if you have stock stocks riding too low will blow them out, im not sure about aftermarket market shocks b/c once i blew out my stock shocks i went a w/full coilover system but didnt really ride slammed anymore.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nooo i ditched to stock shocks. i have tokico illuminas now their set at 3 all around.