just curious i hear alot of rumors.. that the ls is quicker off the line due to the longer stroke.. but then the gsr tranny has a shorter gear ratio..

 

I would say the driver but im a Ls owner and i have taken off on a few GSR's off the line before and some all the way to 3rd gear. But alot of people in here might have a different story.

 

I'd say whoever's the better driver

 

Same car/same driver skill, then technically the LS will be faster off the line. Very small torque difference.

Real world conditions = depends on driver skill.

 

i was under the impression gsr had long gears? maybe that's just opposed to b16 / b18r

 

ive heard that an ls is pretty good in the hole shot. i got one and it pretty strong.

 

the gsr has a 4.40 fd and shorter gearing. In theory it would lay down more torque in every gear regardless of the difference in torque in the ls and gsr. The gsr also lays down more peak torque the ls has more at a lower rpm. GSR 0-60 second time is faster period. It may be driver differences i have seen this myself.

 

http://media.putfile.com/ThirdRunT

This was a run at the dragstrip I had. Im the silver Ls againt the black gsr with boltons

I ran a 15.9 and he ran a 15.2

He launched at 4 me a 2.5k

I had him by a little bit off the line


Modified by 97tegGS at 10:33 PM 11/4/2005

 

humm.. still kinda obscure..

 

did ihear the words "red light" from someone on the side of the strip?

 

we both did. I was -.006 and he was -.010

 

so no one really has evidence huh.. so if the same driver drove a gsr and the ls which one would do better the first 60 feet

 

i think 60 feet is too short to tell the difference. they should be very close.

 

the LS is faster for the first 60 FT but its all driver, and how you launch. LS has a bit more TQ but if you know what your doing you can work the GSR to be faster its just HARDER on the motor

 

driver

 

suspension and tires win this battle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by low430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the LS is faster for the first 60 FT but its all driver, and how you launch. LS has a bit more TQ but if you know what your doing you can work the GSR to be faster its just HARDER on the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

The LS doesn't actually have more torque, it just reaches a peak earlier in the powerband than the GSR.

 

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The LS doesn't actually have more torque, it just reaches a peak earlier in the powerband than the GSR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your a retard....
they have different bore and stroke
The LS does have more torque

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecmissle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the gsr has a 4.40 fd and shorter gearing. In theory it would lay down more torque in every gear regardless of the difference in torque in the ls and gsr. The gsr also lays down more peak torque the ls has more at a lower rpm. GSR 0-60 second time is faster period. It may be driver differences i have seen this myself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the first two gears in both the ls and gsr are identical. i know 3rd 4th, in the gsr are shorter, im not positive about the 5th gears,

 

Maybe the first 60 feet, 0-60 GSR runs better times period. The LS peaks out when the GSR just get's going. I could see it may have an advantage for the first 30-60 feet then the GSR starts hitting it's peak.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maggsgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe the first 60 feet, 0-60 GSR runs better times period. The LS peaks out when the GSR just get's going. I could see it may have an advantage for the first 30-60 feet then the GSR starts hitting it's peak.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Answer the Question, Off the Line LS is faster WTF is wrong with people.
We all know GSR is faster up top so give LS the Credit that its faster off the line.

Off the Line LS &gt; GSR
1/4 Mile GSR &gt; LS
Assuming Equal drivers of course

Is that hard to understand?

 

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your a retard....
they have different bore and stroke
The LS does have more torque

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The degree of ignorance in threads like this makes my head hurt.

Quite simply, the B18C1 (GSR) and B18B (LS) share an identical 81mm bore. The B18C1 and B18B have a 87.2mm and 89.0mm stroke, respectively. The B18C1 and the B18B have a 10:1 and a 9.2:1 compression ratio, respectively. Finally, the B18C1 and the B18B produce 128ft-lb and 127ft-lb of torque, respectively. The compression ratio trumps the stroke, and the GSR has more torque.

If you really want to find out which one is faster, find some magazine data for 5-60 MPH, which essentially eliminates the influence of the driver.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The degree of ignorance in threads like this makes my head hurt.

Quite simply, the B18C1 (GSR) and B18B (LS) share an identical 81mm bore. The B18C1 and B18B have a 87.2mm and 89.0mm stroke, respectively. The B18C1 and the B18B have a 10:1 and a 9.2:1 compression ratio, respectively. Finally, the B18C1 and the B18B produce 128ft-lb and 127ft-lb of torque, respectively. The compression ratio trumps the stroke, and the GSR has more torque.

If you really want to find out which one is faster, find some magazine data for 5-60 MPH, which essentially eliminates the influence of the driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the ls doesnt create a HUGE amount more tq than the gsr...its just the ls feels torquyer because its peak power is lower, due to downsyndromed head....and small cams

 

this whole LS vs GS-R is old....and if I remember right the LS makes about 1 ft/lb of torque more than the GS-R and its peak torque/hp is made at a lower RPM than the GS-R so the LS may be slightly quicker off the line if the GS-R does not launch in the upper RPM band... but the GS-R will pass the LS very shortly after...assuming tires/both drivers are equal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1997GS-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this whole LS vs GS-R is old....and if I remember right the LS makes about 1 ft/lb of torque more than the GS-R and its peak torque/hp is made at a lower RPM than the GS-R so the LS may be slightly quicker off the line if the GS-R does not launch in the upper RPM band... but the GS-R will pass the LS very shortly after...assuming tires/both drivers are equal

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well put