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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Default b-series swap in EG and still have A/C?

How do you keep a/c when swapping in a b-series motor? Use single cam condenser with single cam bracket or what? what's the combination of parts? i searached and it won't let me search small words like a/c.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsvtec_power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you keep a/c when swapping in a b-series motor? Use single cam condenser with single cam bracket or what? what's the combination of parts? i searached and it won't let me search small words like a/c. </TD></TR></TABLE>

use a p30 ac bracket. I have one for you If you want it. Check the sig
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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well, i assume you still have ac in your single cam. so you use all your stock parts, and a bracket from a del sol si vtec, or 99 crv(other years too, but i cant remember when they stopped putting the b20's in them, basically any b20 crv) then you're done.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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B series bracket & b series condenser. you should be okay.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littlegreenb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i assume you still have ac in your single cam. so you use all your stock parts, and a bracket from a del sol si vtec, or 99 crv(other years too, but i cant remember when they stopped putting the b20's in them, basically any b20 crv) then you're done. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong. Thats for a ej
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Orangedragone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B series bracket & b series condenser. you should be okay. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong. the eg doesnt need a new condensor.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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everything will work, except the compressor won't bolt to the b-series A/C bracket.

You need one from a P54 Del Sol VTEC.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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you do not need to swap condensors.
it is the compressor that needs the p54 bracket. off of a del sol vtec.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Default Re: b-series swap in EG and still have A/C? (lsvtec_power)

If you are doing a b16 swap and have power steering you can only use the del sol vtec P54 bracket. If you have a b16 swap without power steering or any B18 swap you can use the p54 or the P7J crv bracket(cheaper). Use all of the d series ac components.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _gurusan_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everything will work, except the compressor won't bolt to the b-series A/C bracket.

You need one from a P54 Del Sol VTEC.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwnthehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are doing a b16 swap and have power steering you can only use the del sol vtec P54 bracket. If you have a b16 swap without power steering or any B18 swap you can use the p54 or the P7J crv bracket(cheaper). Use all of the d series ac components.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You guys do realize he's talking about an EG not an EJ right? P54 works for EJ, P30 for EG
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong. Thats for a ej</TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong. i did it on my eg
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littlegreenb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong. i did it on my eg</TD></TR></TABLE>

as did i. i had my stock si compressor with a del sol vtec ac bracket.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as did i. i had my stock si compressor with a del sol vtec ac bracket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes there are 2 del sol ac brackets, the p30 and p54. The p54 is for EJ's or cars with ej compressors. If you have a eg compressor it should be p30
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Ok, confirmation either you guys dont know what the hell your talking about or that you need to check what compressor you have

http://www.jdmlyfestyle.com/mo...k.htm

http://www.phear7imports.net/trey/6gen/

Notice that JDMlyfestyle consistiently says the 94-95 del sol bracket (P30). In Trey's write-up he mentions the 96 del sol bracket by its full stock # (38930-P54-000). The bracket your looking for is the p30. Read JDMlyfestyle's swap info for more details.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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If you can find a Del Sol VTEC bracket stamped P30 then good for you, but it's REALLY hard to find one because much of the time the p30 bracket is a JDM b16a, which doesn't work.

This is why everyone just looks for the p54.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Default Re: b-series swap in EG and still have A/C? (_gurusan_)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _gurusan_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you can find a Del Sol VTEC bracket stamped P30 then good for you, but it's REALLY hard to find one because much of the time the p30 bracket is a JDM b16a, which doesn't work.

This is why everyone just looks for the p54. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This is Done many swaps and you can use either one and the p54 is more easier to find. P30 brackets also come in 99-00 b16a2 motors.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is Done many swaps and you can use either one and the p54 is more easier to find. P30 brackets also come in 99-00 b16a2 motors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are talking about the bracket off of a 99-00 SI it will NOT work with an EG. I had a GSR swap in my eg and was told that the bracket would work. Bought it, gave it to the guy doing the swap, and it didnt work. Tried to exchange it for a p54 but they wouldnt let me cuz the package was open. So i was stuck paying $110 for a Si bracket and then shelling out another $90 for a p54.

To the original poster, do yourself a favor, just go buy the P54 AC bracket. You can search P54 bracket and you will get a few for sale in the classifieds.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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We just did my gsr swap. I connected my stock 92cx condenser to a crv bracket. I think it was 43 dollars. (less than the del sol bracket) The problem I'm having now is that I can't figure out the tensioner and belt situation. The belt is loose, and I don't see how a screw that doesn't even touch the belt will tighten it. If anyone has pics... that would be great.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Default Re: b-series swap in EG and still have A/C? (_gurusan_)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _gurusan_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you can find a Del Sol VTEC bracket stamped P30 then good for you, but it's REALLY hard to find one because much of the time the p30 bracket is a JDM b16a, which doesn't work.

This is why everyone just looks for the p54. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Soooo very incorrect. P30 and p54 are no where near the same.

P30 is the same as the P72 Gs-R bracket. It is the official 94-95 del sol ac bracket and works for the EG

P54 is lined up differently than the p30 and the p54 is from the 96 del sol. It works for the EJ swaps
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is Done many swaps and you can use either one and the p54 is more easier to find. P30 brackets also come in 99-00 b16a2 motors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF, quit giving bad info. YOu dont know what the expletive your talking about. I had both side by side and the P30 is NOT the same as the P54.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JapTendencies &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you are talking about the bracket off of a 99-00 SI it will NOT work with an EG. I had a GSR swap in my eg and was told that the bracket would work. Bought it, gave it to the guy doing the swap, and it didnt work. Tried to exchange it for a p54 but they wouldnt let me cuz the package was open. So i was stuck paying $110 for a Si bracket and then shelling out another $90 for a p54.

To the original poster, do yourself a favor, just go buy the P54 AC bracket. You can search P54 bracket and you will get a few for sale in the classifieds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What condensor did you have? P54's work for 96-00 condensors.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid 6th gen tech.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The EK is an excellent choice for swaps due to the mostly plug and play, bolt-in process. Here are the parts you'll need to drop the motor in the car correctly:

Rear Tranny mount from the 99-00 Si: 50827-S04-N10 $29.94

Driver side mount bracket from the 99-00 Si: 11910-P30-000 $41.03

96 del Sol AC bracket: 38930-P54-000 $95.40 ( only if you want to keep your ac)</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmlyfesyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">92-95 EG & Del Sol swaping a 88-91 JDM B16a, 92-93 B17a, 90-93 B18a.......Air Conditioning: 94-95 Del Sol Vtec AC bracket</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know you guys talking out of your *** didnt bother to look through the D.I.Y.'s i had posted, but there's the answer i posted earlier. P30 is the one to use for EG Ac w/ an EG condensor
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What condensor did you have? P54's work for 96-00 condensors.
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It was the stock condensor that came in my EG from the factory. I'm the second owner of the car and have the window sticker so i know it was installed from the factory. Every eg around here thats still running AC has a p54 ac bracket.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JapTendencies &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was the stock condensor that came in my EG from the factory. I'm the second owner of the car and have the window sticker so i know it was installed from the factory. Every eg around here thats still running AC has a p54 ac bracket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you guys do this yourself or have someone else do the swap, JDMlyfestyle's write-up was done by him and it calls for the 94-95 ac bracket. I'm going to PM him on this
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you guys do this yourself or have someone else do the swap, JDMlyfestyle's write-up was done by him and it calls for the 94-95 ac bracket. I'm going to PM him on this</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didnt do the swap. At the time I probably couldnt have installed my own short ram if i tried. When I was talking to the owner of the shop(knew him very well through other connections) he also mentioned the SI bracket. I bought it and it didnt work so I ended up buying the p54. After I got him the p54 my car was out of there in 15 minutes. This is a cx hatch using a 95 b18c1 motor. Like I mentioned before, the few swapped EGs in this area with AC all run p54's, esp after hearing about my debacle. I guess I could try my p30 with my new swap considering I still have it laying around somewhere(i think).
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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Well JDM didnt hit me up but from what i can tell 94-95 is the p54, 96 is the p30. Either can be used but the P54 can work for 92-00. The P30 definitely cant be used for the 96-00. Its a lot of mixed messages on both sides when i read through all the H-T archived ****.

One guy who has done over 10 swaps said that you could use the p30 on 92-95 and that he has but IMO i would just use the P54.

Turns out I was wrong. If i knew how to do the hammer guy i would hit myself for you guys.
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