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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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According to this months Dsport the kit is now available. Has anybody used this kit or have any inside info on it?
What everyones thoughts on use A D series trans? (advantages & disadvantage)
Does anyone know the price?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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I can't imagine there being too much of a market for this?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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I just can't see a d series tranny being A advantage, but maybe I'm missing something
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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i dont see a big market for this.. especially with the release of the h to b series adapter.. b series tranny's have a much wider selection
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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D series trannies are light and they are a dime a dozen. cheapest to rebuild as well.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike_belben@yahoo.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D series trannies are light and they are a dime a dozen. cheapest to rebuild as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Most would choose reliability over cheap when running a car at a event. Even if they are cheap to replace and repair, pulling a tranny every few runs is not fun.

I'm sure Bisi has a good reason for using d-series trannys though. Maybe he knows something we don't
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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I thought i read at one point that he stayed with the D tranny because he already had custom gears for it?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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He Pmed me before on some info on the D series trannies, and he said that D trannys have Thicker gears and synchros. and that they were cheap and realiable.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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1. A wide variety of interchangable OEM gear combinations
2. A light reciprocating mass
3. Affordable aftermarket LSD and FD options
4. Inexpensive initial cost
5. Durability and longevity (for the D transmissions with steel forks)
6. D transmissions can be found by the truck load in just about any Honda salvage yard

Im sure there is a lot more that bisi can add to what I have already listed.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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can it handle an h series motor , i was going through y8 trannies like oil changes at sub 300whp D.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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f/h tranny's are identical, as are the bolt castings where it mates to the block.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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F OR H
Bisimoto Signature F/H- series engine to D series transmission adapter plates are now available. These exist as race only units that can adapt all counterclockwise rotation H and F motors to '86 to 2000 D series transmissions.



This is the very same plate system that won the IDRC 2003 all motor champtionships, and showcased in the June to August Sport Compact Car magazine!



Many may ask, "Why the D-series transmission?" These transmissions are plentiful and very cost effective. Since many popular Honda chassis come with these transmissions from factory, factory style axles, mounts, shift linkages, and gearbox sensors can economically remain intact.



Strength of the individual gears is also a big plus. Unlike their B-series bretheren, D-based gears are "stubby", and take well to abuse. Favorite transboxes include, but not limited to, the '86 to '89 Acura Integra D16A1, and the '97+ Civic ex (due to the ferrous based shiftforks).



The Bisimoto Adapter units, the flywheel, bolts and plate, have been rigorously tested in racing environments for 4 years: a claim which imitators cannot replicate. Metallurgical testing has occured to ensure the perfect components. Precision is key: misaligned dowels or poor workmanship can result in damaged engines (destroyed main bearings), and gearboxes.



This CNC plate system will allow the benefits of power and performance of the H/F variant powerplants without the excessive weight and hassle of the cable-based H-series transmission.



The kit comes with the signature "half moon" anodized adaptor plate, aluminum flywheel, and custom plate bolts. Factory dowel pins and flywheel bolts should be utilized.


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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought i read at one point that he stayed with the D tranny because he already had custom gears for it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did too, its in the series of Sport Compact Car articles on his car. They did a lot of research and spent a lot of money sorting things out with the D-series transmissions and when they switched to the F-series block it was cheaper to make an adapter plate then start all over again.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Does anyone have a price on the kit?

I would be more interested in the cost vs a b-series adapter and how it sits in the engine bay of an ef chassis. The h to B sits so high you need a cowl hood.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Most would choose reliability over cheap when running a car at a event. Even if they are cheap to replace and repair, pulling a tranny every few runs is not fun.

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i agree with you, but not all of us have money left over to make a choice. hence, the market for this adapter.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Most would choose reliability over cheap when running a car at a event. Even if they are cheap to replace and repair, pulling a tranny every few runs is not fun.

I'm sure Bisi has a good reason for using d-series trannys though. Maybe he knows something we don't </TD></TR></TABLE>

Now that I think about it, the few times I saw bisi's old car at the track he was always swapping tranny's, or maybe he was just having bad weekends..
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91sihatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone have a price on the kit?

I would be more interested in the cost vs a b-series adapter and how it sits in the engine bay of an ef chassis. The h to B sits so high you need a cowl hood.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would like to know also
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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so does this mean we can swap in an h-series motor into a civic without changing axles or anything? assuming the proper mounts are used, of course
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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meh, i'll give it a try if it's affordable... and I see enough info as far as placement.. that h series tranny is a big **** under my hood.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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I beleive they are $850 and you must fab your own drivers side mount.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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so you still utilize the stock D-series axles? What happened to wanting equal length axles with power?
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Not to be negative, but we just slapped a B series tranny on a D series Block. John @ ETD Racing did all the work on the tranny plate, mounts and centre shaft. I currently have a stock DX SOHC in the car with a B series tranny attached to it for mocking and wiring.

It was a lot of work and will require a custom made flywheel and some other custom pieces. The good things is that the D16z6 engine has not really moved to much, but enough to make a need for re-fabricating a bunch of stuff.

We are using DSS stage 5 axles, along with a Quaife diff and ETD Racing engine mounts. (B series mount kit, with a custom driver side mount)

D Trannies are cheap, but I don't want to change them and the B is stronger. The Ram slipper clutch really helps the D tranny, but we are looking for B power, and any future aftermarket tranny options will come for the B first.

Good luck... Sorry no pics yet...
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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i dont get this? a tranny would give power?
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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i have you on my car it works i have a d trans built from libertiy gears proshifted /have the flywheel and tci 500hp axels -the motor put down 280whp 201tq and everything held up just fine this is on the f22 sohc
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