whats up everybody...ive tried searchin but havent found much help...

...Basically, the title says it all...i had skunk2 lowering springs and stock blown shocks that i just replaced for koni yellow shocks and ground control coils...both the coils and shocks were bought new, so obviously the shocks arent blown...
.......the suspension was put in by someone who definitely knows what hes doin so i dont think , that for some reason, it was due in part to bad installation...

...BUT WHY in the hell does the suspension feel similar to what i had on the car a week and 1/2 when back then my shocks were blown and i jus paid almost 8 bills for a new suspension setup?.................It feels slightly better on bumps and potholes, and i mean, i can tell the difference, cause i drive the car everyday, but to other people who have been in it since the change, they say they cant really notice a difference......It still sounds like im 1/2 way about to bottom out........

...arent new shocks, and especially the famous koni/gc combo supposed to give my car such a lovely ride? its alright, but not what i thought it would be... ikno the shocks are adjustable with the **** they come with, and ive tried foolin around w/ it, but the boom on pothole factor remains...1 thing is it says when your supposed to adjust the shocks that you will do it by way of clicks i believe? when i turn w/ the ****, i dont hear clicks, its just a straight rotation , left or right, does that have anything to do w/ it? can some 1 help?...

 

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Depends on the springrate. I'm assuming you're very low, don't have much shock travel, and are smashing into your bumpstops.

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That's the way Konis work.

 

so lets say that is the case?...what can i do to remedy it? please dont tell me im screwed and that up im up the creek w/o a paddle?...

 

the joy of Eibach ERS springs... You're a set away from having a car that handles totally differently.

I had the "stock" 380F/275R springs with OTS yellows on my 93 Ex coupe. Swapped the rears for 450s, readjusted the shocks (Front: 4 "*****" / one-third turn from soft, rears 6 "*****" one-half turn from firm) and it is MILES better. Oh yeah - I also have the GC tophats for the front, ES black poly bushings all around, 2.5" drop. Slightly more harsh of a ride than stock, MUCH less bounce, MUCH more responsive handling, and still smooth enough to not cause the ex-gf's **** to hit her in the face! My car dropped 2.5" was smoother than her 93 GSX w/ stock stuff in decent shape. Driving on bumpy potholey Cincinnati streets...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depends on the springrate. I'm assuming you're very low, don't have much shock travel, and are smashing into your bumpstops.

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so what are my options guys? to give me a better ride...tophats/pillow mounts would be nice right? except i dont exactly have cash right now so those are temp. out of the question...will simply raising my car heigh wise improve the ride? what else can i do?...

 

...can anybody help? im piecing together that even tho my car is not "slammed", it bein lower leads to a more uncomfortable ride...will simply raising the height of the suspension help my ride?...will it make better as well as less rough?...

(it is somewhat low, the tire sits even with the fender in the rear, and in the front i have about a finger gap, bigger in the front because of bigger tires which im switching this weekend)

 

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(it is somewhat low, the tire sits even with the fender in the rear, and in the front i have about a finger gap, bigger in the front because of bigger tires which im switching this weekend)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you don't have much shock travel. You either need to raise the car or get extended top hats. If you have very stiff springrates, you may still have a harsh ride afterwords, but at least you won't be hitting the bumpstops.

 

I have off the shelf springrates...dont know know for sure if that helps or hurts me, but judging by the way my car rides, and the responses in this thread, i may have bitten myself in the *** by choosing that option...

 

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the soft rates aren't the problem, it's the lack of bump travel the EG's are cursed with. with the standard gc rates on standard length koni's i wouldn't lower the car more then .75". you're about 1.5-1.75" too low. raise the car up and it will ride much better.

nate

 

...gotcha...im about to raise it up in a couple hours, and ill let you guys know how it goes...thanks much...

 

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Spherical bearing pillow mounts will make the ride worse and not better as they will take some compliance out of the system. The GC upper mounts that raise the top of the shocks and the bump rubber higher might help you a bit as well but are by no means mandatory.

 

I cut the bumpstops on my Konis prior to installing them so that there is a little more shock travel. I'm lowered...well pretty much slammed with negative finger gap all around, and when I first installed the suspension I wasn't very impressed with the ride quality. After some fooling around with the **** settings, the ride quality is now MILES BETTER. You might want to try messing with the shocks settings - something near the soft side should do the trick.

 

Yep, time for you to dial in your settings. When i first installed my suspension, it was at full soft, which did not ride that well, wayy too bouncy. After giving the front 1.5 turns, and the rear .5 turns, everything is all well. Well, almost...gotta dial it in a bit more.

But you get the point...

 

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...arent new shocks, and especially the famous koni/gc combo supposed to give my car such a lovely ride?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Maybe you should have read a little more... Most people here tune their suspention to take corners better, not to provide a silky ride like a Cadillac. And when they do so, they don't lower it all that much. The fact is that with under 1" of travel left, you hit the bumpstops. Riding on bumpstops is just like riding w/o ANY dampening at all.

Try this - raise your car to the height it was with the old shocks and see how it rides. It should be much better than now, albeit firmer due to much more dampening force. I dunno how Koni's get adjusted, but try putting the rear on 2/3 of the way firm and the front 1/3 firm (meaning rear stiffer than front) and from there either firm up the front or soften the rear.

 

I appreciate the help man...but see? thats why sometimes im hesitant to post on this board...maybe you should have read more ... it may sound like im takin it real personal, but im not, but at the same time, was it really necessary to add the extra commentary? no,it wasnt, and "most people", well, im not most people and i dont drag race or auto x, but i do have a hell of a bumpy ride onthe nj turnpike about3 or 4 days outta every week...i appreciate all the info and help guys, and ihave raised the car back up, and yes it is better...so thank you...

 

Didn't mean to sound nasty, I just use commentary and examples that are one the extreme side to convey a point with less confusion. Maybe you should look into the other way to make the suspetion feel better - softer springs/stiff sway bars. It's got it's own ins/outs too, but it will give you a softer ride like a caddie w/o *leaning* like a caddie.

 

thanks ...another point, before i start another thread mayb it can be answered here.... my car often made that screeching kind of noise when going over big bumps or potholes and it came from the rear wheels...it sounded like the tires hitting the wells, ive been doing my best to search and....

...could part of the reason be due to torn bushings in my lca's?....is it likely or not probable?...ive read that on a daily driver, replacing lca's jus because is kind of pointless, but obviously if your bushings are torn then you need to...is it possible mine are torn? would replacing them eliminate the noise? and what is a good brand/choice to replace my stock lcas?...