car is a 91 honda civic si hatchback wiht first gen b16 OBD0...

about a month ago my drivers side engine mount snapped and the engine fell on the tortion bars, had to pull the engine out to fix it so we pulled the engine out disconnected all wiring and sensors, put it back in hooked everything back up thats i can see at least. then my buddy needed his obd0 dizzy back and i had no dizzy so i went to tiger japanese autoparts in ontario and bought a BRAND NEW obd0 first gen b16 dizzy... put it on my car and we start it, it runs fine at idle, but its throwing code 4 which is crankshaft position sensor and it doesn't rev much over 3 grand kinda sputters out... does anybody have any suggestions... plz do not tell me its the dizzy cuz its not its BRAND NEW NEVER USED before distributor...

and try not to tell me to try to buy an ls one and chop the leg off and try that , cuz i really dont wanna go through that personally...

anybody with help would be greatly appreciated.. thanks

i even tried unplugging the ecu for a bit to see if it would go away and as soon as i start it up boom it comes on again

 

Sorry to bear bad tidings-get a new distributor. If - for example - you have either a TD02U or TD18U the sensor is buried in the base of the distributor and costs more to replace than Distributor King charges for a complete NEW warranted unit.
I must note that it is very possible to get a brand new unit that is in fact DOA. You will do well to contact your supplier and request that they provide a new one that matches your engine.

 

Get a new distributor.

 

guys it cant be the dizzy, its BRAND NEW it arrived today, the right stamping and everything, how could it be fucked? doesn't make sense,, its gotta be something in the wiring or something

 

Did you check the wiring for the distrubutor plug. Even though the distrubutor is new that doesn't mean it can't be a defected distrubutor. I really can't see it being the engine harness because even if the motor fell to the ground the harness really isn't going to move that much with a lowered car.

 

yea i know thats what i was thinking too, do u think maybe something inside the engine coulda moved or something i dunno, i cant really think of any reason that it would expletive up like that, or something not plugged up correctly, buti highly doubt that would throw the crankshaft position sensor code :S argh, i just wanna get this ****** thing running again a lil piece of something broke off by the throttle but i asked a few ppl and they said it was nothing,,, lik enothing even connected to it, on top of the butterfly.

 

Hey Guys,

I have been on this site for over 4 years but recently lost the password to my old account when cookies were deleted. I never set up a secret question so here goes my new account.

Anyways, obviously it can be your distributor, new means only so much. I have a brand new obd0 b16 distributor from Distributor King throwing the same code. Borrow someones dizzy for an afternoon, theres gotta be someone near you with one.

 

my homeboy had a 2000 si.....the dizzy worked just fine but but the car kept throwing CPS.....we tried everything from the ECU to the timing. We checked all connections and everything was fine. Then we changed the dizzy and the code went away. If you wanna try a bootleg trick just get an ignitor off of an OBD0 single cam dizzy and swap them. Sometimes they go out and cause all kinds of problems.

 

check your wires at the dizzy and at the ecu end bet you pulled a wire out follow b10 and b12 see if there connected at both ends

 

wow i contacted teh guys i bought the dizzy from today and they argued wiht me for like 2hours how its not possible to be the dizzy at all in any way, its something fucked wht my car only, saying that i should take it to honda to get it checked out... im like have u ever heard of honda-tech, then i got the guy to come on here but he was dumib as a post and couldn't find my post,,, so they are arguing that it cannot be the dizzy at all,,, says to take it to honda,, what a guy..


blo2k1, just follow the wiers and see if there is a splice or something? or not connected?

 

Who the hell did you buy it from. If what you are saying is true, that they argued it is impossible to be the dizzy they sold you, people need to know about them.

 

tiger japanese auto parts, he argued wiht me forever about the situation saying it couldn't be the dizzy i was like wooooooww... he's like in all the 25 years we've been around nothing ever has gone wrong with any of these

 

It's most likely the distributor. Brand new does not guarantee it works...even though it should. I run a shop and have gotten defective new electrical parts from one of my suppliers on more than a few times. But, since we buy so much, they just swao it out. I would take the distributor back to the place you got it from and just raise hell until they swapped it. You don't want money, you just want a good part. I guess your lucky enough to be able to drive somewhere to even buy a dizzy for your car. When I was looking for mine the local yahoos would just be like "you need a what?"
Anyway, take it back or call distributor king and get another. I've bought 3 from them, they get the from me

 

IT IS the distributor. I have gone through 4 NEW ones, remans are only so good.

 

its not a reman, its BRAND NEW

 

i had the same problem with my b16a swap a few months ago, it was resolved after some rewiring at the ecu (c1, c2, b10, b12), just make sure your distributor plug is pinned correctly because that is where those wires run from....

 

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i got one of those POS. i put it in and the same code came up. and it was brand new not reman. it was off ebay from somewhere in Ontario. i had a used one and swaped it and the code was gone. they did refund my money BTW.

 

problem fixed and for those of you who said its the dizzy, i knew you were wrong cuz its BRAND NEW like i said

the problem was in one of the engine harness clips i guess when i plugged it back in i bent one of the prongs and it wasn't making contact, all we did was pry it up a bit and it makes contact and no more codes :D

 

knew it was one of the wires as it happened to me before

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91_civicsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">problem fixed and for those of you who said its the dizzy, i knew you were wrong cuz its BRAND NEW like i said

the problem was in one of the engine harness clips i guess when i plugged it back in i bent one of the prongs and it wasn't making contact, all we did was pry it up a bit and it makes contact and no more codes :D</TD></TR></TABLE>way to be a dick. If you ever need help again, I'll make sure I don't offer any advice.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91_civicsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">problem fixed and for those of you who said its the dizzy, i knew you were wrong cuz its BRAND NEW like i said

the problem was in one of the engine harness clips i guess when i plugged it back in i bent one of the prongs and it wasn't making contact, all we did was pry it up a bit and it makes contact and no more codes :D</TD></TR></TABLE>

what a dumbass.

 

agreed. oh and btw before you come on a public forum asking for help...make sure you have already tried the problem solving methods laid out in any of the service manuals. I think for the most part we all assumed you would have checked for connections on that wire.

 

im not being a dick but i am just saying the ppl that were being a dick to me demanding it could only be the dizzy when i knew that couldn't be possible, were wrong, i appreciate the suggestions, but i said in my very first post its not the dizzy so dont tell me its the dizzy lol

anyways, yea profiles of victory that woulda been good but i didn't have a multi tester so i couldn't test all the wires for continuity, plus outta the 3 engine harness clips i didn't know which one it would be in, my buddy came over put the multi tester in to try it out, and boom he's like there is something wrong in that big clip right there
sure enough we unplug it and the prong is bent in one of the connectors...

again not trying to be a dick i really appreciate the help from everyone but for now she's fixed until another problem occurs

and the reason i posted on here is cuz usually ppl are really helpful on honda-tech.. i guess just nobody has encountered that problem exactly like that before, no big deal...

anyways just happy its running, im out, peace

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91_civicsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not being a dick but i am just saying the ppl that were being a dick to me demanding it could only be the dizzy when i knew that couldn't be possible, were wrong, i appreciate the suggestions, but i said in my very first post its not the dizzy so dont tell me its the dizzy lol


anyways just happy its running, im out, peace

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I don't see where anyone was being a dick. It is obvious from others experiences that it CAN be a bad new dizzy, in your case it wasn't.
Next time, if you are SO CERTAIN before posting, just don't post. People offered help through theire experiences without looking at your car in person. If some of the people that replied would have been there in person, then that bad clip would have probably been found long ago. Asking for help sight unseen is a bit different.

 

which plug was it so i know for future reference what else can cause CPS to be thrown?