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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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i just did a d16z6 swap into my 89 si civic i want to either get my ecu re done to run vtec and have vtec fuel curves or pick up a cheap vtec controller that will hook up to my non vtec ecu right now i have a buddy club vcon vtec activater which activates the vtec and lets more air in but not more fuel any help guys?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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I've ran a Feilds unit before, i was happy with it, you can adjust fuel and vtec. Best bet would to either go obd1 or jus do what you said an get your pm6 redone. I think thats what im going to do.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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1st off is the car obd-0 or obd-1 ?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Oregon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1st off is the car obd-0 or obd-1 ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

he said he had a 89 civic si, that would make it non-obd....

btw i would just get your pm6 redone, as long as you don't want ac..
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Yeah the vtec activation uses the ac clutch output. Or you can use what you are now to activate vtec and use the turboedit to adj your fuel timing maps.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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dont buy a vtec activator .. its a waste. just get your ecu chipped to run vtec and copy the maps from the ecu of the engine you are running.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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it is OBD 0 i already have a vtec activater which kinda sucks but does anyone know how to or who or where i can get my ecu done? thanks
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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and theres no ac
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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xenocron or kenji can do it. even if you dont have ac, the ecu still has a pin for ac that just isnt used. it will probably cost you about $100 or so.. but youll have the confidence that you are running your engine the right way.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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the ideal way to run vtec is to do the obd1 conversion...which will give you the best results and tuning freedom. If you are on a budget however you do have different options. One option to look into is to use an rpm activation switch like msd to activate vtec. This will allow you to run vtec while using your stock PM6 ecu. It will run somewhat reliably, but i would recommend that you still have this ecu chipped with at least an ebay "spoon" or "mugen" program. This was my setup when i had a z6 in my EF previous to my b16 swap.
If money is not an issue...by all means opt for the obd0 to obd1 conversion.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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If you run turboedit with the vtec triggering option you will have "tuning freedom" and no need to go obd0 unless you want to. You will be able to change your fuel and timing tables. http://www.pgmfi.org
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kulangot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said he had a 89 civic si, that would make it non-obd....
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Wow, your an Idiot

88-91=obd-0
92-95=ond-1

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Oregon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow, your an Idiot

88-91=obd-0
92-95=ond-1

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Wow, you're not much better....
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Oregon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow, your an Idiot

88-91=obd-0
92-95=ond-1

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OBD0 = non-OBD

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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OBD0 = non-OBD

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You really shouldn't refer to OBD-0 as non-OBD.

OBD simply stands for On Board Diagnostics, which the first-gen ECUs do fairly well. In 1988 the SAE adopted a standardized connector plug and diagnostic test routine, and this was the precursor to OBD-1. It was never really given a formal title to my knowledge, but most refer to it as OBD-0.
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