I got a set of 1991 Acura Integra front brakes. Everything from the spindle down. Is it a straight swap on the EF upper and lower control arms? is it possible or will I have some alignment problems? If not, what's the other alternatives?

 

It will effect your camber but if your lowered it won't effect it, it will fix it. You can always go buy a fast brakes kit if you got money like that as an alternative. Or you can do the sedan's brakes which are bigger and don't effect camber.

 

so in other words they do work then?

 

yes they will work...if your lowered, they will work even better

 

Yes they will work, just use your stock LCAs and upper arms.

 

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I think its the opposite , it gives negative camber so lowering it will only increase the negative.

 

well damn then, who do I believe? will this give me better braking cause the integra rotors and caliper are bigger?

 

I also have a camber kit to adjust it if that helps.

 

need to find someone who's actually done it and gots info on the alignment issue. thanks.

 

if you have a camber kit then youll be fine. yes they make a huge difference in stoping power. i cant remember if it helps or hurts camber but integra hubs are 1/2" shorter than civic hubs.

 

so do the knuckles increase camber or decrease camber? Because increasing camber is a good thing (to a point). I still don't understand wy people get camber "correction" kits, when all they need to do is get the toe properly aligned.

 

good! finaaly got an answer, i think i'm gonna try them tomorrow. I remembered when I put my 2000 civic SIR front knuckles on the front of my 97's h/b holy ****, did it ever stop!

 

anyone?

 

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It's because camber correction kits correct camber and not toe. Two different things.

 

http://www.ef-honda.com/ben/

Go to 'Tech', then 'EF Hybrid suspension'. Scroll down to where he talks about the front suspension, he has some good info on the DA knuckles.

 

from my experience, i have 90-91 crx sir arms, which are identical to 90-93 da arms. I had a problem getting my toe set right after installing these arms, the toe. The tie rods where screwed all the way in and the toe was still in (\ /) turns out i had to cut almost an ich off each tie rod (the threaded rod itself) and use a die to clean up the threads. This solved all my toe problem. ALso i have a camber kit to begin with but i cannot comment on the camber adjustemts for these arems.

 

I have an 89 EF hatch and i swapped my entire brake assembly with 92-95 civic assembly.

i had my car lowered 3 inches with a bit of camber on it, when i did the swap it gave me positive camber, put them straight up and down, lowered it to 4 inches after that, slight camber now, maybe 1degree, not even noticable.

had to get my car aligned afterwards tho, one of the best conversions ive done.

No camber kit ever needed.

here are some pics of the unit after i restored it,

http://i8.photobucket.com/albu...7.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albu...5.jpg

 

so, I got all the suspension from a DA integra (front spindle assembly and rear trailing arms with everything) If I swap this all into my ef h/b what complications will I find and how do I correct them?

 

No complications at all.

For the fronts, only mount the knuckles....nothing extra.

For the rears, just use the Integra trailing arms. Don't swap the LCAs or any other arms. Just swap the actual trailing arm.

After that, get yourself a good alignment and have fun with your new brakes.

 

right on, i'll try it tomorrow. thanks!

 

What kind of size difference is their between the civic and teg?

 

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Between the 90/91 Civic EX - None. Both the Teg and the EX use 10.3" rotors.

The Integra has *slightly* different calipers and a tiny bit more pad surface area on it's brake pads. I don't know why, though. For all practical purposes they are nearly identical, and they are completely interchangeable.

Between the 88-91 Civic LX, DX, Si, STD and the Integra....a ton of difference. 9.5" rotors compared to 10.3" rotors. And much better calipers.

And of course it can be argued that the rear setup isn't much 'better'...just that it's disc versus drum. Most people prefer to work on disc brakes, and they also look better IMO behind a good set of wheels. The actual braking increase, though, is probably only marginal for the rear.

 

but basically changing my front SI brakes to da front brakes it would brake better, right?

 

Your tires always limit the limit of deceleration, but with larger brakes you will be able to apply the same braking force for longer before fade becomes an issue. You will not necessarily stop in less distance the first time, but you may the 20th time.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from my experience, i have 90-91 crx sir arms, which are identical to 90-93 da arms. I had a problem getting my toe set right after installing these arms, the toe. The tie rods where screwed all the way in and the toe was still in (\ /) turns out i had to cut almost an ich off each tie rod (the threaded rod itself) and use a die to clean up the threads. This solved all my toe problem. ALso i have a camber kit to begin with but i cannot comment on the camber adjustemts for these arems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

SiR arms and 90-93 integra knucles/hubs are NOT the same. I have had both in front of me. The SiR arms have the steering tie rod end connection point located more inboard compared to the US spec civic and 90-93 integra. that's why you had to cut the inner tie rod.

there are no modifications necessary on 90-93 integra knuckles. And I measured them to be about 6mm taller than stock civic DX knuckles. I resused the upper and lower civic arms and didn't have any camber or caster issues with the integra knuckle.