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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Hey Guys,

So I'm kind of distraught over all this Omni bashing that has been going on since the advent of the CMC failure, that since then, has been corrected. But we'll get to that later...

I've been a big supporter of Omnipower since day 1. I've ran their full coilovers, and I still run Omni front and rear camber kits. Everything I've ever bought from this company has held up to all the abuse I give it on a daily basis. Bottom line, their products are quality, based on my experience.

So when their CMC's started failing a day after installation something was clearly wrong. Here is what Steve (Omniman) said after the correction was made:

Originally Posted by omniman
First off i want to sorry to all the people that bought the master cylinder and had a failure. here is the situation
the seal material that we originally used was only compatible with a few types of dot 3 fluid. by dumb luck when we did testing we used one of the few dot 3's that was compatible. the failures were a result of the seal swelling up and seizing itslef in the bore.

we have the problem resolved........... we now use the same seal material as OEM honda . the new seals will perform flawlessly and also have much less friction than the original one we used.

we are sorry that some of you had to wait, but it took some time to make sure everything was correct and functioning properly. as well as testing in multiple situtations , conditions and various clutch types.

the new seals are compatiable with all dot 3,4,5 brake fluids. it is however recomended not to mix brake fluids. we have tested the seals in nearly every brake fluid comercially availible with 100% success.

replacements for those if you who boguht them and had them go bad will be shipping out on the 11th of october 2005. for anyone who has purchased one and was lucky enough to use one of the few brake fluids that was compatible please send in the master cylinder so we can update the seals for you. we will pay the shipping both ways.

if anyone wants to cut and paste this in other threads relating to this matter please feel free to.

I will say this one more time............. the quicklutch master cylinder has all the problems fixed and will provide trouble free operation for anyone wishing to purchase one. they will be availible for shipping anytime after october 11th 2005.

thanks for your patience
So after I knew the problem was fixed, and me understanding how reputation is everything for venders in this business, I ordered an Omni CMC. I did this for 2 reasons:

1) I wasn't happy with the pedal feel after the installation of my Competition Stage 3 clutch.

2) After installation of my CMC I was hoping to give a positive review of this product since they've given me nothing but the best in customer service and quality parts.

So I ordered it last Sunday and it got to me on Friday. Not bad. CA to VA.

Here is the box it came in:







Sweet.

So today I got to the installation. It didn't take that long. Here is my old CMC coming out:



After you use a flared wrench to get the hardline off, put it in a ziplock bag to prevent spillage:



Don't forget to spill brake fluid all over your driveway like a champ



Here's a little comparison between the two CMC's. You can see how much bigger the Omni one is over stock. At that sight, I start to get excited





Here's the new one installed:



REVIEW:

Note: When I say 'stock clutch setup' I mean a stock or aftermarket clutch with a stock clutch master cylinder.

Ok, so after I borrowed my dad for the bleeding process I took the car out for a drive. Backing out of the driveway I stalled the car. It's a COMPLETELY different feel. I was in shock. The clutch pedal is totally different.

With a stock clutch setup you need to push the clutch pedal between 4-6 inches to get it to engage right? With the omni CMC, you need to push it about 1-1.5 inches to get it to engage. The clutch pedal permanently stays close to the firewall and is very stiff.

This is hard to describe so a pic will help. Sorry for the shitty pic but it's tough to get down in this position by the pedals, let alone take a pic. Ok, what you're looking at is the bolt that you can adjust the pedal height with. In this pic, the bolt is adjusted all the way in. So if this was a stock clutch setup, the pedal would be as low as possible. You see how far away from the bolt the pedal is? IT STAYS THAT FAR!!



So now you can imagine how low the pedal is to begin with. When you're shifting gears you just press it slightly and it engages the clutch. This really is a short shifter for your pedal.

Amazingly enough, you can actually make smoothe transitions from a stop to a slight roll in first gear. You can modulate the pedal like normal, but everything is just quicker. WAY QUICKER. It's a great feeling and I'm never ever going back to a stock clutch master cylinder.

I'd recommend this to anyone. Anyone who wants a better clutch feel or more accurate shifts. This will help roadraces or drag racers as well. I can now make lightening fast shifts where my foot and hand act simultaneously.

Props to Omni on another innovative product.





Modified by litterbox at 8:12 PM 10/22/2005
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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holy **** those pics are huge.


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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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sounds good, umm might i suggest resizing pics tho
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Done.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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That looks awesome! I've always hated my long pedal travel. Sounds like a great mod.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Another informative post Thanks! I might get one myself.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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hmmmm whats the cost......didn't someone post about total failure of there omni mc??
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SloCivicHMM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmmm whats the cost......didn't someone post about total failure of there omni mc??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhg... did you not read the damn post!? Jesus christ!

Thanks for another informative post litterbox!! I just might pick one of these bad boys up when some cash flows in!
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SloCivicHMM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmmm whats the cost......</TD></TR></TABLE>It was $199.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Hmm. I guess omni DID fix the design flaws that the other one had. good to see you are happy with it.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Eh im still happy with my stock cylinder. ill wait another couple months to be sure all the bugs are worked out. cant afford to get stranded with my car being my DD
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Not bad not bad. I was still debating getting it even when they were having all there problems. But money is tight so i cant. But as long as i dont see a "aww expletive i was wrong, omni CMC sucks" thread by you then ill probably get it when i get the cash.

Yea we never had any problems with some of there stuff. Like camber kits and such. ::shrugs::
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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good review litterbox.

i was really exited when i saw that omnipower was offering a quick cmc so i preorderd one before they even came out. i bought omnipower's original cmc with the bad seal. when it did work it felt exactly the way litterbox described it. when it went bad i called omni and spoke to bob. he said he'd gladly refund my money or if i was willing to wait, i could get a new one when the problem was fixed. i liked the way it worked so much that i told him i would wait. it has been about two months now and i am still waiting for my cmc. i don't think this is entirely omnipower's fault because i have moved. although i did include a note telling them to send the cmc to my new address in the box when i shipped them the defective cmc.

all and all their customer service was really good. bob was willing to answer all my question. i guess i'll have to call omni on monday.


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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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I'm still waiting for more feedback
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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lol
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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looks good but a bit steep on the price for such a simple device
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Can you use this with an OEM/stock clutch?
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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i wonder if this would work wiht my accord.. hummm
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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i've driven a similar setup before, i'd say its like driving a truck..........but comfortably, you WILL stall on your first try, its just so different but its a nice feel to it and fast reactions
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Thats some damn good customer service, it must suck having to replace all those failed units. Thats a big loss, I might have to get one of these, my pedal travel is pretty far too.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Yeah, their CS is truly a pleasure, I just got off the phone with Steve (omniman) and he's a real nice guy.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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Looks good bro. I've thought about getting about one of these!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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nice, i might have to pick one up
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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I'm ordering mine on friday.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Litterbox:
Will you come back in like a month and update your review for me/us.
Your review is great, makes me want one for sure... I'm just too big of a puss to take the chance on my DD, I'm broke as-is.
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