Crank key?
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Ok so I have a questoin about the crank key. Mine doest fit. I got a block with the pully and key taken off and put in a bag. So when i tried to put it together for ***** and giggles I saw that the key didnt fit. Here are some pics.
This one is of the key next to the hole which looks like it is too big.

This next one is of the key on the crank with the pully taken off. And as you can see it is sticking out too much.

I cant seem to find a way to make it fit, I looked in the chiltons manual, which of course just shows you a four inch picture of the key and an arrow pointing to the hole that its supose to go in, which is pretty useless in my situation. Then again, I might just be a retard.
Now this next one is of nuts that i got with it and i dont know where they go too.

Thanks
jake
This one is of the key next to the hole which looks like it is too big.

This next one is of the key on the crank with the pully taken off. And as you can see it is sticking out too much.

I cant seem to find a way to make it fit, I looked in the chiltons manual, which of course just shows you a four inch picture of the key and an arrow pointing to the hole that its supose to go in, which is pretty useless in my situation. Then again, I might just be a retard.
Now this next one is of nuts that i got with it and i dont know where they go too.

Thanks
jake
u got a plate thingy over ur pully, take that off and you will see the keylet in the pulley aswell. you line the keylet in the crank up with the keylet in the pulley and u got a perfect fit.
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Well I forgot to take a pic of the pully, so here's a pic. It shows that there is actually no key hole on the pully, this is the top that is pointing away from the crank. That would have been nice if there was a hole, but there isnt.
dude lol it looks like part of the key is stuck in that pulley. Heres my guess, you got the key in a bag because it broke and the part that was still in the crank shaft was put in a bag. I know on h series, that timing belt drive pulley is keyed and should be for all other honda engines to keep it in place.
You can go ahead and put the pulley on without the key, i would love to see your whole top end stop moving while your pistons keep going up and down when that pulley gets stripped on the shaft while banging 3rd gear
You can go ahead and put the pulley on without the key, i would love to see your whole top end stop moving while your pistons keep going up and down when that pulley gets stripped on the shaft while banging 3rd gear
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delLudeVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude lol it looks like part of the key is stuck in that pulley. Heres my guess, you got the key in a bag because it broke and the part that was still in the crank shaft was put in a bag. I know on h series, that timing belt drive pulley is keyed and should be for all other honda engines to keep it in place.
You can go ahead and put the pulley on without the key, i would love to see your whole top end stop moving while your pistons keep going up and down when that pulley gets stripped on the shaft while banging 3rd gear
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OK, let me tell you what is really the problem. The small geared pulley drives the T-belt. This slides on the crank with the key side facing the motor and the line facing out which is the TDC marker. Once the T-belt is installed the large skinny, flat gear " looking " washer holds the T-belt in place. Then you slide on the crank pulley after you have installed the plastic T-belt lower protective cover and match the notch cut out on the crankshaft with the one on the crank pulley and THEN......... slide the " woodriff key " in place and now install the crank bolt and torque it to 180 footpounds. Hopefully before you have done all this you put the cams and crank to TDC or Top Dead Center, then installed the T-belt. Once you have torqued the crank pulley bolt you can set the tension on the T-belt by spinning the crank by hand with a 19mm socket about 5 - 6 full rotations of the motor counterclockwise, then tighten the 14mm tensioner bolt. Make sure everything is still TDC before starting it. Once you get it running let it warm up for about 15 minutes, then set the timing with a timing light to 15 - 16 Degrees advanced or just line it up with the single red or yellow mark on the crank pulley.
You can go ahead and put the pulley on without the key, i would love to see your whole top end stop moving while your pistons keep going up and down when that pulley gets stripped on the shaft while banging 3rd gear
</TD></TR></TABLE>OK, let me tell you what is really the problem. The small geared pulley drives the T-belt. This slides on the crank with the key side facing the motor and the line facing out which is the TDC marker. Once the T-belt is installed the large skinny, flat gear " looking " washer holds the T-belt in place. Then you slide on the crank pulley after you have installed the plastic T-belt lower protective cover and match the notch cut out on the crankshaft with the one on the crank pulley and THEN......... slide the " woodriff key " in place and now install the crank bolt and torque it to 180 footpounds. Hopefully before you have done all this you put the cams and crank to TDC or Top Dead Center, then installed the T-belt. Once you have torqued the crank pulley bolt you can set the tension on the T-belt by spinning the crank by hand with a 19mm socket about 5 - 6 full rotations of the motor counterclockwise, then tighten the 14mm tensioner bolt. Make sure everything is still TDC before starting it. Once you get it running let it warm up for about 15 minutes, then set the timing with a timing light to 15 - 16 Degrees advanced or just line it up with the single red or yellow mark on the crank pulley.
WHAT THE F&*$ ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????????????????????? how does that have to do with why his crank key doesn't fit!? I would venture a guess that 90% of ppl on this board already know what you just randomly stated. He knows how it all fits on...
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don't you feel lucky being his 10th post?
you have a key already in ur crank pully man. install the pully with the key facing outward, line the bitch up with the keylet and see if it goes on like that. see how that goes.
don't you feel lucky being his 10th post?
you have a key already in ur crank pully man. install the pully with the key facing outward, line the bitch up with the keylet and see if it goes on like that. see how that goes.
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I bet it will all fit back together but if the key is broken, the pulley is only being held on by the tiny flat spots on the crankshaft. I would venture a guess that after prolonged driving/heaving driving, the pulley could eventually strip itself causing your timing to be off, a jacked up crank end or worse, having your pistons come up and smack your valves.
Use a hammer and maybe a chisel to push that key out and go to the honda dealership and get a new key for like $2. I highly recommend you fix this right.
When i changed my oil pump, i got a new pulley, ring and key. (my pulley was all dinged up to hell tryin to get it off)
OH and as i remember correctly, the reason it looks like your washer wont fit on right is because it goes on before the pulley to prevent the timing belt from rubbing off against the block. Your crank pulley i believe protects the other side. The crank key sticks out to much because i think another pulley uses the key to. I wouldnt know for b series, with h22 it had a balancer belt pulley on the crankshaft that used the key also.
Use a hammer and maybe a chisel to push that key out and go to the honda dealership and get a new key for like $2. I highly recommend you fix this right.
When i changed my oil pump, i got a new pulley, ring and key. (my pulley was all dinged up to hell tryin to get it off)
OH and as i remember correctly, the reason it looks like your washer wont fit on right is because it goes on before the pulley to prevent the timing belt from rubbing off against the block. Your crank pulley i believe protects the other side. The crank key sticks out to much because i think another pulley uses the key to. I wouldnt know for b series, with h22 it had a balancer belt pulley on the crankshaft that used the key also.
im stupid as ****. ignore my prev comments. the key is for the crank pulley for accessories. the crank pulley you are trying to install should fit right on if im not mistaken. i'll look at one of my spare blocks tomarrow to be sure.
i'm almost positive the key on the timing belt gear doesn't come off and they do look like that. that key looks like the key for the crank pully that runs the alternator. atleast thats how it was on the d-series i just did.
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Ok, yeah. I was just looking at it from one way. I had the key from the timing belt gear facing down towards the block so there wasnt enough room for the key to fit from the crank pully to the crank. Im pretty sure thats what I mean. But I think it is solved. Thanks a lot for the help.
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