I've been looking around trying to find how well the other SFWD/T4 guys are going with t3 hotside turbos. So far, I've seen that 93H22ACX did it with a t3/t67HO (731whp and 478trq I believe), and Turbo-charged is close with a 10.05@141 with a GT35R (I believe he's still running the /63 housing, and he has posted that it hasn't seen over 550whp at the track if I recall correctly). Excellent times from both of you, congrats BTW. If I understand correctly, they're both T4 cars.

Are there any other cars out there running 9's or close to it in T4/SFWD with a t3 hotside (no squeeze)?

I'm going to try to do it SFWD. I've hit a 10.4@140 /w a 1.75 60' so far at 6000feet elevation in SFWD trim. There's definitely room for improvement with my setup (I've hit a 1.70 60' before), but shaving that last .5 seconds is definitely no small task. I've got your typical (simple) 600's whp setup (actually, I made 612whp/403tq corrected up here: subtract about 25% from that number, so maybe 500 actual whp). Still running the .63 a/r stg 5 t3/t67. I've already ordered the .82 housing for next season. I just don't want to drop the $$$ to get a new DP, manifold and T4 turbo.

Has anyone done it in SFWD trim yet? Care to share some info on the setup?

 

Good question... I bet it's only a small handful of people.

 

Brian Ballard went like 10.2 on a T3 SC61 in 2003, 140+ mph

 

Well u look at the cars going 9's all of them are putting out at least 550 and most are in the 6-700 range. A T3 hotside can make that, but most racers out there would choose the T4 since you'll get more power and the lags not really hurting you leaving off a high rpm 2step/antilag while FTS. But definitly work with your budget. If you need money elsewhere in the car definitly don't rush into the new housing/manifold/DP.

 

im actually working on trying the same thing.. i had a custom turbo built for me.. its a 70 front wheel with a ported s cover and a t3 rear with a p trim wheel .82 a/r. i made 556 on 21-22 lbs with the same 67 you have now..

 

Cunha did it on a SC63 9.85@146

I think any big T3 I'm talkin (GT35R, T3/T67, SC63) should be able to do it.

 

GSR--T3/67 H.O.--9.94@149.9
Stole this from 93H22ACX's sig

 

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i was just about to comment about that gold hatch from GA..i believe it made 730+whp with it..

edit: i just noticed that was posted already..


Modified by bruceleeroy at 3:10 AM 10/22/2005

 

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i was just about to comment about that gold hatch from GA..i believe it made 730+whp with it..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Corrected numbers are more like 680-690whp guys.. Just keepin it real.

 

Lets make this a little more interesting. Limit the people that run 9's with a t3 hot side to a true t3 hot side. Not a p-trim t4 wheel with a t3 housing made to fit. Not that the t3/t67 h.o isn't a great turbo, but your only kidding yourself saying it is a t3 hotside. It is a t3 housing but not a complete t3 hotside.
Just my opinion.

 

even with a p-trim wheel its not going to flow like a t4 hot side.. its still a smaller housing

 

yea, i know. I always end up disagreeing with people about this but, no problems man, i just don't concider it a t3 hot side. It's more like a t3/t4 hotside.
Either way it does make some good #'s with the t3 housing. It will just always be in my book as a t4 turbo with a t3 housing.

 

Well, our car isn't a T4 car, more like a SLOW Pro4, but we did 9.63@149MPH without spray on a T3 (P-Trim)/T67 turbo. Car is 2420 with driver.

 

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yeah because you can feel the difference between 690 and 730. bwahahahhaa. unreal hp numbers.

 

Is anyone doing/done it in SFWD trim?

 

I'd say work on the suspension and driving because -

(W) John Ferguson ('92 Civic) 0.541 9.922 153.79
(L) Cortney Green ('95Honda) 0.600 9.916 144.69

Ferguson won with a holeshot....

Your already running 10.0 at 6000ft, you'll be much faster at Sea Level.

I think you can find what you need in the suspension and nitrous cost less than a all new turbo setup.

153mph is moving, still didn't get it all to the ground however...

 

someone trapped 158mph at Norwalk thats pretty fast IMO. He had to pick up at least another 100 whp over what he was running before.....!!

 

I'm at 10.4 @ 140 right now.... It will be a challenge to do it with the stage 5 wheel but I think it can be done SFWD

 

just watch the egt's...

 

I have run 10.65@135 on a SC63 with 27lbs of boost here in Florida on a day that it was in the 90's. I'm going back this weekend on 30lbs and the weather hopefully will be in the 70's. I hope to hit low 10's. I was wanting to go 9's on this turbo but i dont think it will happen. My car is a 95 civic coupe that weighs around 2500 with driver.

 

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that was on a dual bb t72

 

I was looking into this about a year or so ago. Only person I found that got really close was GSC's old Si coupe. He told me (if memory serves me right) he went 10.02 with a true T3 hot sided turbo.
I too run a T3/67 (no HO) with .82 Havent had any time for races this year and the ones I made I was plagued with either clutch or ignition problems. However the car has made 465whp on about 15psi boost and pump gas, so I know there's quite a bit more power to be made. Im only going after 10.20's though......if it goes faster then Im one happy pup

 

Did a search and we went 10.07 @ 148 last year on the Innovative GT61S. That was at 35psi.

John

 

John ran his first 9 on a GT40 (T4)

 

Bump this is a great thread