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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Default OK! So I want to race in H1..............

What is the best platform to use assuming an H22 motor?

Civic
CRX
Teg
DelSol
Prelude

or other????
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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We hope to be running an H22 in our Integra R next season
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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CRX.


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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (Grumpy)

The Crx, Civic, and DelSol platforms take alot of "hacking" to get the motor in. the Teg i'm not so sure about. BUT i know the Accord as room for the motor.

I would vote integra... you dont want to "hack" to much... and you dont want the shortest wheel base... its a good comprimise. well other than building the tank #2
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Grumpy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK! So I want to race in H1..............</TD></TR></TABLE>
why?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kaan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Crx, Civic, and DelSol platforms take alot of "hacking" to get the motor in. the Teg i'm not so sure about. BUT i know the Accord as room for the motor.

I would vote integra... you dont want to "hack" to much... and you dont want the shortest wheel base... its a good comprimise. well other than building the tank #2</TD></TR></TABLE>

Imagine a team of tanks
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kaan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and you dont want the shortest wheel base... </TD></TR></TABLE>

eg and dc2 = same wheelbase

unless j00 talking about a dc4
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (AdamITR)

I really wanted to build an EG H22... but you have to really take your time with the front end... when you modify the front cross member i wouldnt just hit it with a hammer... i'd cut and patch it the right way. also ... i'd look into a nice custom header... and work on a good oil pan.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (Grumpy)

H22 Accord!!!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

eg and dc2 = same wheelbase

unless j00 talking about a dc4</TD></TR></TABLE>

just ruling out the crx/ef setup
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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GOTO Racing/Calculated Risk built a car for H1/USTCC that was an H22 powered 2nd gen teg. It looked like a great setup and the car was fast (got to see it and do lead/follow when they came to Phx for USTCC). If I were going to stuff an H22 in something, I would definitely consider a DA after seeing that car in action.

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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EK hatch has a long wheel base
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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2nd gen integra slipped my mind.... not a bad platform either.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Accord.. Long wheelbase is good..
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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ok... Corey can you get the Accord close to minimum weight? I know your lude needs some more work in that area.

2 door coupe or 4 door?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPiFF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22 Accord!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the motor, and no one wants to buy it. v6 brakes will bolt right up. must resist....
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Dave Davis also has a comptech H22A in a 2nd gen Integra. I think it makes something like 260 at the crank, and weighs 1970 lbs.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (Grumpy)

I think the 94-01 Integra 2 door is the best chassis considering suspension, aero, size, weight, and parts availability.
But the 96-00 Civic 4 door could be fun with it's stiff chassis, long wheel base, and beefy suspension. Plus it has the 4 door touring car cool factor. If you're into that.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (Kaan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kaan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok... Corey can you get the Accord close to minimum weight? I know your lude needs some more work in that area.

2 door coupe or 4 door? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can get the accord within 50lbs of min weight, but it will cost 1200$ in materials.. (brake kit/CF hood/maybe CF trunk next year/lexan)
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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within 50lbs is safe. that wouldnt be a bad platform then.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (Kaan)

Nope, not at all.. If the accord was the same prep of the prelude, I would race the accord in H1
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPiFF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22 Accord!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tom Lepper has run a few races with his Accord out here on the left coast. He feels that that chassis way to heavy for the current class weights. He's more competitive in USTCC than he is in H1.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kaan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Crx, Civic, and DelSol platforms take alot of "hacking" to get the motor in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's really not that big a deal. I wouldn't do it on a street car with AC & PS, but for a race car, it's a pretty simple swap. HASport did the swap in a CRX in Sport Compact Car magazine earlier this year. I drove it for a few days. VERY fun. I might go with an DA/DC chassis if I were starting it from scratch, but I'm a long wheelbase guy. You might also want to look at the class weight difference for the F22 single cam version of that same motor if you don't already have the H...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Default Re: OK! So I want to race in H1.............. (Honda318dx)

well i let Grumpy know... if any of you guys need a hand... let me know.

ps- hopefully RJ will be the next on your bump draft list...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might also want to look at the class weight difference for the F22 single cam version of that same motor if you don't already have the H...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The H motor with its dual cam head is probably only 20lbs heavier, at the most... Bottom ends are identical..
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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What are the reasons not to use a DelSol???
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