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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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why is my secondaries doesnt scream louder then my VTEC when installed header and exhaust???????????
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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why would they? your secondaries come on before your vtak. the seconadaries change runner length. the vtak changes cam profile and that is what the sound is from.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:17 AM
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hmmm no. VTEC = 4700-ish RPM. Secondaries = 5800-ish RPM.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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I don't know if you have a VAFC or not but VTEC kicks in at 6k. not 4.7k.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nataku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if you have a VAFC or not but VTEC kicks in at 6k. not 4.7k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. It is hard to hear your vtec crossover, that loud noise you haer at 5800 RPM is your secondaries opening. Listen around 4400 rpm and you will barely hear your vtec. Its true, believe it or not.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nataku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if you have a VAFC or not but VTEC kicks in at 6k. not 4.7k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lmao!
dude if your not sure about some , dont cofuse the rest...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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exactly. 4400 rpm = vtec crossover and 5600 rpm = secondaries open

if you dont believe it, run an intake w/stock exhaust....you hear it get louder at 5600...this is the secondaries. now, if you are running stock exhaust, pull off the axle back. at 4400 rpm you WILL hear vtec engage.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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VTEC kicks in at 6000??? ya come on..dont post info if you dont know what your talking about..

on my b17 secondaries kick in at 5700 or 5800. and that **** is LOUD as HELL.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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4400 VTEC screams loud as fawk.. 5700 secondaries open but can rarely tell.. exhaust too loud??
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littleredcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would they? your secondaries come on before your vtak. the seconadaries change runner length. the vtak changes cam profile and that is what the sound is from.</TD></TR></TABLE>sorry dude... but this is the dumbest thing ever that you just said. as you've now read, (oh yeah, it's also spelt--&gt; VTEC)vtec is at roughly 4400rpm and secondary butterflies are roughy at 5700rpm. btw, the secondary butterflies don't change runner length... they open up another runner to increase air and flow.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC kicks in at 6000??? ya come on..dont post info if you dont know what your talking about..

on my b17 secondaries kick in at 5700 or 5800. and that **** is LOUD as HELL.
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b17s dont have secondaries only the b18c1
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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ya sorry bout that.. i was tired.. i knew when i was writing it something was wrong.. but couldnt figure it out.. lol.

and i was just driving, and was looking for the primaries at 4400 and didnt hear anything.. and that reminded me what was wrong in my post.. lol

but when my VTEC kicks in.. OMG seriously. IT IS CRAZY loud. its louder than my friends 2002 RSx Type S and my friends 1997 Prelude.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nataku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if you have a VAFC or not but VTEC kicks in at 6k. not 4.7k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littleredcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would they? your secondaries come on before your vtak. the seconadaries change runner length. the vtak changes cam profile and that is what the sound is from.</TD></TR></TABLE>


your both ******* fired.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRVTEC1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is my secondaries doesnt scream louder then my VTEC when installed header and exhaust???????????</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRVTEC1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4400 VTEC screams loud as fawk.. 5700 secondaries open but can rarely tell.. exhaust too loud??</TD></TR></TABLE>Vtec is heard through the exhaust while the butterflys are heard through the intake. Ever heard a gs-r with just a SRI? The IABs are loud as hell. Stock airbox with an exhaust and all you hear is vtec.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Vtec is heard through the exhaust while the butterflys are heard through the intake. Ever heard a gs-r with just a SRI? The IABs are loud as hell. Stock airbox with an exhaust and all you hear is vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE>
what exactly is SRI?? i hella miss hearing my IAB screamin.. is there a way i can hear it loud n clear even wid my exhaust installeD?
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:59 AM
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SRI = Short Ram Intake

I seriously cant understand how people cant hear their IAB Kick in. I think those complaining about not hearing them, with B18c1's using the factory manifold, are confusing the sound that the IAB makes for VTEC.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:04 AM
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I've also never heard of an exhaust or header combo that kills the IAB sound. The only things I can think of that would keep you from hearing them are

-Running an oem or type r style manifold
-ECU being chipped without IAB Control
-IAB's not working
-Maybe something JDM i've never heard about
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:14 AM
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[QUOTE=EnjoyTheRideDC2]I've also never heard of an exhaust or header combo that kills the IAB sound. The only things I can think of that would keep you from hearing them are

with the catback exhaust being too loud, it drowns out the IAB tone i believe...
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tekneshum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> with the catback exhaust being too loud, it drowns out the IAB tone i believe...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Still have not experienced that....even in an EG with a jspec ITR header, test pipe, and spoon axle back. If anything, it sounded more halacious.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:52 AM
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I agree with this guy... listen for it and you can hear the slight change in tone when VTEC engages... even with a loud exhaust.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by memicah &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with this guy... listen for it and you can hear the slight change in tone when VTEC engages... even with a loud exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude, when VTEC engage, of course the loud exhaust would make it sound louder, but butterflies opening sound seems to drown out
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tekneshum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
dude, when VTEC engage, of course the loud exhaust would make it sound louder, but butterflies opening sound seems to drown out</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not totally true. In most cases vtec crossover is still quiet no matter what. My friends GSR with AEM SRI and N1 exhaust has a quiet vtec crossover.

Really, if you want to get rid of yor secondaries, get the skunk 2 intake manifold. I THINK it deletes the secondaries. Notice I highlighted think. Don't jump on my case if it is wrong.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tekneshum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
dude, when VTEC engage, of course the loud exhaust would make it sound louder, but butterflies opening sound seems to drown out</TD></TR></TABLE>

You got it mixed up. When Vtec engages, the sound of the crossover is not loud at all....its somewhat unnoticeable. The secondaries is the loud sound you hear in the upper 5000 rpm range. The Tone changes pitch and gets a bit more throaty.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blu99teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not totally true. In most cases vtec crossover is still quiet no matter what. My friends GSR with AEM SRI and N1 exhaust has a quiet vtec crossover.

Really, if you want to get rid of yor secondaries, get the skunk 2 intake manifold. I THINK it deletes the secondaries. Notice I highlighted think. Don't jump on my case if it is wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're right. It gets rid of the secondary IAB system by not utilizing it at all...like the Type R and LS manifolds.
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