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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Like it says, is anyone spraying a large (150/200hp) nitrous oxide shot in a Honda B-series. I want to know what is neccesary in a build to do this. I would like a detaild list of yours or someone you know's set up, from engine management to motor internals.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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For anything like that the set up is not far off from someone who would build a turbo block. Whatever crank you go with do the normal polish journals, zero balance, etc. Then pick the compression that you are shooting for, and take into account what head you will use. There is a 2cc difference between the B16 head and the GSR head on the same B18C1 bottom end. Rods are a must as well. I would deffenately go with nothing smaller then the 3/8 bolts. Head work if you want to, but not mandatory. You can run the HONDATA, Neptune, Uber, Crome, etc. I like to use the MSD Digital 6 Plus ignition box. There is an output control wire on it, that once it senses the 12 volts form the nitrous kit applied to it, you can pull your timing out that way. The rest of the time (daily driving for instance) it is just normal timing. Plugs are agian, pretty much what most turbo guys run. Then there is the TUNE! Don't just start off with the 150shot on the dyno. Start at like 50-75 and work your way up form there. You will most likely play with the fuel pressure during the tuning of the nitrous system.

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:23 AM
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Just do a basic build.....sleeves, pistons, rods. With nitrous only, you can run upwards of 14-1 compression on race fuel. The big deal with running lots of nitrous in these small motors is to pull a lot of timing. I ran a 2 stage, 250hp shot on my turboed 1.6 D16Z6 and was only running 7-9 degrees of total timing on 28 psi boost. Like the SFWD 1934 said, start small and work your way up.

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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Nitrous loves compression.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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Sounds good keep em coming!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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ls/vtec no sleeves, blockgaurd
12.8-1 cr with stock gs-r head, nitrous plate
180 shot, C16, hondata S200
ran mid-high 11's street car
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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we are running a 125 direct port 4 fogger,on a b18c stock sleeves and stock bore with cp11.1,eagle rods,b16 head,springs,retainers,jun stage 3 cams,no p/p,stock intake and throttle body,chipped p28,full msd,car has gone 11.5 at 114mph on 25/8.7/13 mh slicks.1.71best 60ft.we run a real cold plug and pull about 4 degrees of timing so far and it is still alittle rich.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedDreamz.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nitrous loves compression.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and i love nitrous
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Who else is sprayin big!?!?!
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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the only 2 people that i know of on this board that are spraying 300+ are me and 1700anddropping. he is spraying around a 400 shot...
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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that is alot of ******* spray, your not kidding.....\
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THCk20eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is alot of ******* spray, your not kidding.....\ </TD></TR></TABLE>


no he's not....i will put this to use when i get my money situation right again.



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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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!!!!!!!!!!W O W!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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!!!!!!!!!!W O W!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1700anddroping &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


no he's not....i will put this to use when i get my money situation right again.



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this is for a 3/4 deck plated 2.4L h22 w/t72 bb and nos pro race fogger
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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&lt;-- 160hp worth on top of 460whp
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Just out of curiousity how many passes do you get out of a 300 shot? 400? How many lb bottles.

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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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probably 2 passes, depends on how long you spray. il try to find my chart. Ideally you wanna refill the bottle when theres about 3 lbs left.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Used2beAb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just out of curiousity how many passes do you get out of a 300 shot? 400? How many lb bottles.

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we would use 10lb bottles..we would get 4 good 1/8 mile passes.but when you spray at 1300 psi bottle pressure....things happen very quickly.


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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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so that's about 2 passes on a bottle? how much is nitrous per pound?
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so that's about 2 passes on a bottle? how much is nitrous per pound?</TD></TR></TABLE>
going price around here is about $3.50/pound.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamNextGenChris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
going price around here is about $3.50/pound.
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ouch. that's pretty expensive. i was thinking about doin a low budget nitrous project with a friend but i think i just changed my mind. so doing some simple math that's 2 runs on a 10 lb bottle. so if i have a 2day event here at my local track of about 10 runs that'll cost me about $175
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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3.25/lb over here.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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we GET 4 GOOD 1/8 MILE PASSES...not 2.


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