I dont know what these are really, they came out of my 5th gen prelude, and they barely clear the torsion bars. The magnet gets hit by the bar but it still closes and opens just fine. I replaced these with kappas and i really just want someone else to enjoy them. 40 dollars if you pick them up, 45 if you need them shipped. They are in good condition and sound pretty good, not awesome but for 45 bucks what do you want? I'm in irvine