Anybody have experience with these?

kit #1 - NSX caliper + rotor

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's a new kit for the Integra TypeR. Using the NSX rear caliper with 11" rotor, this kit will add a bit of bling to your car. Kit contains the adapter brakets, hub rings, and rotors.</TD></TR></TABLE>



kit #2 -

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2 piston caliper upgrade with 10.93 inch rotors. Kit comes complete with the 2 piston calipers, pads, 10.93 inch slotted & drilled rotors, adapter brackets, rear braided steel brake lines. NOTE: This kit will ELIMINATE the parking brakes. 1998-2001 Integra TypeR</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i had that setup but i sold them... i was running 1996 nsx calipers all the way around with legend gsr rotors up front and 96 nsx rear rotors in the rear. it was tight fit in the rear with 15in itr wheels.

 

Will that kit fit under 15's?

 

yup, i was running complete 1996 nsx calipers, 95 legend gs rotors (F), 96 nsx rotors (R), all under the stock usdm ITR wheels.

 

Is there really a point to it? I know your car has power, but your front brakes are huge.

 

I don't know if the rear calipers for the ITR should be upgraded IMHO.

In braking zone at corner entry, the rear would get really light. Too aggressive of a rear brake would cause unintentional lockup (creating a white smoke screen ).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if the rear calipers for the ITR should be upgraded IMHO.

In braking zone at corner entry, the rear would get really light. Too aggressive of a rear brake would cause unintentional lockup (creating a white smoke screen ).</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly.., i thought the setup was a huge overkill, but at the sametime i liked the upgrade cause it fit under the stockers.

they have since been sold for spoon calipers, rotors, pads up front and stock itr braking setup in the rear.

 

Crunching some rudimentary math leads me to believe that both of those setups are massively rear biased and would make for a highly unstable car if the ABS was ever removed, disabled, or even malfunctioned.

Not to mention that the car will actually be slower with those things on there.

Matt

 

Is everyone missing the quote from Fastbrakes site?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this kit will add a bit of bling to your car</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by splitime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is everyone missing the quote from Fastbrakes site?

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brakes are over rated anyway

 

right. who cares if you lock your tires..

it's just for bling

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crunching some rudimentary math leads me to believe that both of those setups are massively rear biased and would make for a highly unstable car if the ABS was ever removed, disabled, or even malfunctioned.

Not to mention that the car will actually be slower with those things on there.

Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I would think too. You dont want to nail the brakes at 130mph and have the back tires lockup more than they do with stock bakes. Sounds like a bad/dangerous idea to me unless you upgrade the front by the same percentage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crunching some rudimentary math leads me to believe that both of those setups are massively rear biased and would make for a highly unstable car if the ABS was ever removed, disabled, or even malfunctioned.

Not to mention that the car will actually be slower with those things on there.

Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>


Can't you just use a proportioning valve or adjust the brake bias in some way to accommodate the difference in caliper sizes?

I've always wanted an easier way to change rear pads - and that two piston setup looks nice...

 

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Can't you just use a proportioning valve or adjust the brake bias in some way to accommodate the difference in caliper sizes?

I've always wanted an easier way to change rear pads - and that two piston setup looks nice...</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually if you are talking about the rear caliper.. its still one piston, just a bigger piston diameter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't you just use a proportioning valve or adjust the brake bias in some way to accommodate the difference in caliper sizes?

I've always wanted an easier way to change rear pads - and that two piston setup looks nice...</TD></TR></TABLE>

sure, you could use a proportioning valve to turn down the rear brakes until they have stock level stoping force, but then whats the point?

 

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Can't you just use a proportioning valve or adjust the brake bias in some way to accommodate the difference in caliper sizes?

I've always wanted an easier way to change rear pads - and that two piston setup looks nice...</TD></TR></TABLE>

1. You'd have to remove the ABS to do that.
2a. You'd have to modify the system from diagonal to front-rear (and possibly have a slow returning pedal)
- or -
2b. use two identical prop-valves (down to taking them apart and making sure the spring rates and lengths are identical)
3. You'd have to make sure that the prop-valve is able to accumulate enough volume to reduce the pressure going to the rear, which would be tough with such a drastic change of rear brake torque.
4. Even if you could do all those things, why would you? The car would still be slower then it started with.

 

What kind of setup did realtime run on there old cars? I remember seeing a 4pot brembo caliper in the front, and a 2 piston brembo in the rear. If they ran a brake bias controller, did they have to modify the system from diagonal to front-rear?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Factor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of setup did realtime run on there old cars? I remember seeing a 4pot brembo caliper in the front, and a 2 piston brembo in the rear. If they ran a brake bias controller, did they have to modify the system from diagonal to front-rear?</TD></TR></TABLE>



looks like stock rears with brembo 4 pot fronts. I do remember they of course had ducting and I think they may have deactivated the ABS.

I know I have that issue of SCC home somewhere, I'll take a look later and see what they list.

 

Damn Anton thanks for saving those, maybe you can answer this - didn't Realtime run an LS chassis for one of their cars?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alexander &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn Anton thanks for saving those, maybe you can answer this - didn't Realtime run an LS chassis for one of their cars?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks but, I can only take the credit for finding the pics at Yahoo images online and posting them here. Although I do have that particular magazine at home as well as I think 2 others, GRM and I think R&T where they went through the realtime R's in depth for similar articles.

 

Thanks for the article. I remember seeing the Realtime R's up in Sebring with the Brembo setup in the rear.

 

I seem to remember seeing some nice compact wilwood rear calipers with the pins for easy pad swapping... they were small and about the same size as itr calipers... I'd like those...

I can't find them on the fastbrakes website any longer, however.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I seem to remember seeing some nice compact wilwood rear calipers with the pins for easy pad swapping... they were small and about the same size as itr calipers... I'd like those...</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

^^^ what brembo setup is that? looks interesting.

 

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Willard, which season was that? The last one for the DC2's (2002-2003)?