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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Any Running this setup? i am looking to make 600whp on a t3/60-1 .82 AR Housing.
with a 40mm wastegate.has any one out there made this kinda power with this turbo setup.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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You would be able to make that power if it was still 1998.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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you are really pushing the compressor at that point... find a dif. turbo
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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SC61 or I might even go with a T3/T67 and go with the smallest ar you could I think .63 is the smallest. Might try for .48. That would be nuts
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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I made 540whp and 400wtrq on this turbo, i think it'll make close to 600whp.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSR-Abuser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any Running this setup? i am looking to make 600whp on a t3/60-1 .82 AR Housing.
with a 40mm wastegate.has any one out there made this kinda power with this turbo setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cortney Green made 604whp with a 60-1/t3 and a sfp manifold at like 29-30psi. I want to say he had a 1.9litre then.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Cortney Green made 604whp with a 60-1/t3 and a sfp manifold at like 29-30psi. I want to say he had a 1.9litre then.

liam</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am running 2.0 with a spooled performance ramhorn manifold.I new it was goimg to be aleast 25-30 psi to make the power i need.What other t3 turbos are out there to make that kinda of power. And this is not for street use race only.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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T3/67
it will make the power you are aiming for, spools faster than the SC61 and carries on making power to 10krpm and maybe more.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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the 60-1 can make that power, but you willl be at its limits
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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I ran a sc61 - it was decent. Didn't really spool until 4000, but well worth it by that time. I have a light flywheel and crank pulley, so I revved pretty damn quickly......
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSR-Abuser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am running 2.0 with a spooled performance ramhorn manifold.I new it was goimg to be aleast 25-30 psi to make the power i need.What other t3 turbos are out there to make that kinda of power. And this is not for street use race only.</TD></TR></TABLE>

T3/67, SC61, GT35R are you best bets...either of those three are much better turbos then the 60-1. 60-1 is 30 years old.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Or you could go with the T3/T61 which uses the GT35R 61mm Wheel in a TO4S 70a/r Housing.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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it sounds like he already has it. and after running this turbo personally for over a year this turbo can make the power and its fairly responsive.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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60-1 is def a throw back turbo. might as well run a fmu and 370's with it and you can have the john brown 1997 special. but seriously go with a t3/67 or a gt35r... those will make 600hp and not have to beat the hell out of the turbo
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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I have a t3/60-1 .63 ar. I hope to make 400 on 91 octane and hopefully over 500 on race gas with hi boost. If this isn't too off topic I was wondering how much later a t3/t67 boosts at with a .63 ar compared to my turbo?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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is the gt35r ball bearing?? which one is a little smaller than this? i want something to produce 400-450 to my b16 engine...any suggestions?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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bore the b16 out to 84mm, put some ITR cams on it and put the 60-1 with a .82Ar and you will get your powergoals with good tunning.


I think someone here made very good numbers a long time ago with a Full-Race 60-1 with a .82 Ar turbine housing on a fully built b16.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1 vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">T3/67
it will make the power you are aiming for, spools faster than the SC61 and carries on making power to 10krpm and maybe more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whoever told you a turbo with the same exhaust wheel but a heavier 67mm compressor wheel will spool quicker than a turbo with a lighter compressor wheel and all the other internals being the same is on some good ****

A T3/T67 stage 5 .63 A/R most definitely doesn't spool up quicker than an SC61 on the same hot side.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Whoever told you a turbo with the same exhaust wheel but a heavier 67mm compressor wheel will spool quicker than a turbo with a lighter compressor wheel and all the other internals being the same is on some good **** </TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont think it's as easy as saying: bigger wheel = more weight = more lag. It's a lot more complicated then that. It also has a lot to do with the compressor trim aka. inducer to exducer ratio. Here is some good info on that subject...just read what RacerXtreme7 posted:

http://www.rx7club.com/printthread.php?t=345518
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">60-1 is def a throw back turbo. might as well run a fmu and 370's with it and you can have the john brown 1997 special. but seriously go with a t3/67 or a gt35r... those will make 600hp and not have to beat the hell out of the turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
what RPM does it fully spool at? would be the next question
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueShadow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I dont think it's as easy as saying: bigger wheel = more weight = more lag. It's a lot more complicated then that. It also has a lot to do with the compressor trim aka. inducer to exducer ratio. Here is some good info on that subject...just read what RacerXtreme7 posted:

http://www.rx7club.com/printthread.php?t=345518</TD></TR></TABLE>

The wheel is bigger and heavier and spools slower, period. I'm too lazy to read through that thread, but I've had both turbos on my car and you can't even begin to try and argue that the T3/T67 spools quicker.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The wheel is bigger and heavier and spools slower, period. I'm too lazy to read through that thread, but I've had both turbos on my car and you can't even begin to try and argue that the T3/T67 spools quicker.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not saying it does or doesn't...just saying that in general it is more then a wheel being bigger and heavier which equals more lag. Maybe when you have more time or when you aren't more lazy you'll read that guys post.

Here is a tidbit for you to read. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with spool time for SC61 vs T3/T67, it's just a little info for you.

As I stated above, the larger the inducer the more lag or longer spool-up time will be realized. BUT, with a larger exducer (with same size inducer) an interesting thing happens. In certain circumstances your spool-up time can DECREASE. This is due impart to the tip speed of the larger exducer is faster for the same shaft speed as the smaller exducer comp wheel. The higher tip speed flings the air out with more force. This only works in moderation and in the smaller to mid sized framed turbo compressors (t3 – T4 sized). There is diminishing returns in this phenomenon
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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i dont want to go into much detail because i cant honestly find the post but it showed the same setup tested with the sc61 and t3/67 cant exactly remember the spec of each turbo but there were graphs showing when each turbo made the same power, when it hit full bost etc and the t3/67 spooled just a little faster and hit full boost slightly faster but there wasnt a major difference but thats what helped me decide which of the two turbos to get for my setup. basically i was going by that.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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The SC61 wheel and T67 wheel have almost the same size exducer. It is the inducer size that has a little bit more different. The exducer or overall diameter of the SC61 wheel is 82mm and 84mm for the T67. However the SC61 has a 61mm inducer diameter (56 trim) while the T67 has a 67mm inducer diameter (63 trim).

If you check out that rx7club link I posted a few links up you'll see how the trim size between the two turbos is related to the lag and where the compressor would make more power between those two turbos.

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