My friend just got a b18 he wants to change the piston rings, but wants to know what will happen he doesn't hone it?? I personally called a couple shops and they told me it would just smoke for awhile in-till the piston rings settle into place?

Has anybody ever tried this and had good luck?

 

Yeah, it would smoke for a while, but there's no guarantee that they will settle in. I don't know if you can get them for a b18, but there are piston rings out there that are made to be installed without honing.

 

anybody else ever done this...?

 

hahahaha man i would not mess with your engine like that first off i would recomend buying/renting/borrowing a ridge reamer if you want to do this right and not ruin your hard earned money on another set of rings and second a clyinder hone creates the cross hatching pattern that seats your rings so thats why it would smoke and also possible not seat the rings right even after driving it for a while

so i would take this advice if you want to be nice to your engine

p.s. a ridge reamer takes off the ridge in the top of each cylinder caused by the top compression ring riding against the cylinder wall

 

I think he's trying to change the rings without pulling the head. Am i right?

 

not to be mean but i wouldnt touch your engine if you know that little
and if you are trying to take out the pistons without removing the head thats even more work to pull the oil pan and crank and you cant install pistons through the bottom of the cylinder if you really want to change rings either take it to some one who knows how to do it right or to a shop

just trying to help out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTAKKK!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahaha man i would not mess with your engine like that </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not my motor.. i personally would never do this..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTAKKK!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to be mean but i wouldn't touch your engine if you know that little
and if you are trying to take out the pistons without removing the head thats even more work to pull the oil pan and crank and you cant install pistons through the bottom of the cylinder if you really want to change rings either take it to some one who knows how to do it right or to a shop
just trying to help out </TD></TR></TABLE>


1st, i actually know alot more than most people I've built about 10 motors my self..(im not trying to act like i know everything but i know for a fact i know alot..)
2nd, the motor is out of the car and i would never try to do this with the block still in.
3rd, if you would read i wouldn't have to say this again but, I called a few shops and they said

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ThatsMyEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it would smoke for awhile in-till the piston rings settle into place..

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so im asking the people who have done this cause i wanna know how long it lasted..

but thanks for the advice some what..

 

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no your wrong, thanks for the bump

 

it is possible to change pistons/rings or just the rings without a hone. I am gonna vote it all depends on what the cylinders look like when the head is off. If they are scratched and you have a ring ridge (not always the case) then I would not reccomend it. Then it would be wise to hone and remove that ring ridge.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1319890
In the engine in that DVD, getting 206WHP out of the NA B16. They installed new pistons and rings on the 1989B16A block without honeing it. It worked fine without smoking at all. It all depends what it looks like when you tear it apart. They never even pulled the block out of that civic during the bottom end rebuild.

Also worth it to check out the DVD if your gonna rebuild an engine yourself. Lots of good tips and instruction on how to do a lot of things.Good luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG_intheworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is possible to change pistons/rings or just the rings without a hone. I am gonna vote it all depends on what the cylinders look like when the head is off. If they are scratched and you have a ring ridge (not always the case) then I would not reccomend it. Then it would be wise to hone and remove that ring ridge.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1319890
In the engine in that DVD, getting 206WHP out of the NA B16. They installed new pistons and rings on the 1989B16A block without honeing it. It worked fine without smoking at all. It all depends what it looks like when you tear it apart. They never even pulled the block out of that civic during the bottom end rebuild.

Also worth it to check out the DVD if your gonna rebuild an engine yourself. Lots of good tips and instruction on how to do a lot of things.Good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, see thats some good advice, with proof dang

i did look for scaring/scratches everything looked good.
is there anything we can use to clean the cyclinders with just to be safe?