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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Just got my engine in JDM ITR B18C. Just wondering how i would be able to tell if it was 98+ spec? Because I belive the 98+ came with CTR cams. Thanks
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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you don't know what you purchased?

why would an ITR motor come with CTR cams?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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The 98+ ITR motors came with the JDM 4-1 2.5" Collector Header.

The 96-97 ITR Motors have a 2 piece 4-2-1 Header.

Unless the importer switched the header, that should give you a good indication.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Default Re: 96 98 (98 Spec R)

The header that is on it right now looks like the Spoon 4-2-1. Would the header be a 4-2-1 1 peice or a 4-2-1 2 peice.
The one on there looks like this exactly
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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With the 2 Peice like this
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't know what you purchased?

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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I bought an ITR motor B18C out of a wrecked DC2 What else is there to know? Just wanting to know what year it is, must you constantly quote yourself? Just answer my question please. Your wasting both of our time by being an ***.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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96-97
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought an ITR motor B18C out of a wrecked DC2 What else is there to know?</TD></TR></TABLE>

what model year is the DC2 wreck?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Just wanting to know what year it is, must you constantly quote yourself?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i am trying to help you answer your own question

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just answer my question please. Your wasting both of our time by being an ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how am i being an ***? why are you being so emo? you ask us a question but we can't ask you one?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought an ITR motor B18C out of a wrecked DC2 What else is there to know? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You could have asked your seller what year the car was before you bought it.

Check the stamp on the head. Right above the headers, a bunch of circles and see what year the head is.

There's no guarantee since heads could have been swapped.

Generally, if you got a header like that, it would be something found normally on a 96spec motor....
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what model year is the DC2 wreck?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I could not tell the pictures did not have front bumper or headlamps


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am trying to help you answer your own question</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not realy your asking me a question. "you dont know what you purchased" Motor yes i know, year no i dont thats what im trying to find out.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how am i being an ***? why are you being so emo? you ask us a question but we can't ask you one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
By asking a question you already know the answer to. Further elaborate on what "EMO" is and how ive expressed the aspects of it? You can ask away as long as it's helpful.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You could have asked your seller what year the car was before you bought it.

Check the stamp on the head. Right above the headers, a bunch of circles and see what year the head is.

There's no guarantee since heads could have been swapped.

Generally, if you got a header like that, it would be something found normally on a 96spec motor.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
The seller was a local Private car shop and unfortunately he moved 1 week after i recived the motor. I was out of town that week and was not able to get in contact with him upon delivery . Will do the head check thanks .
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I could not tell the pictures did not have front bumper or headlamps</TD></TR></TABLE>

who did you buy it from, you didn't ask them what year the wrecked was?
what do you think you bought?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not realy your asking me a question. "you dont know what you purchased" Motor yes i know, year no i dont thats what im trying to find out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well now...it doesn't take a genious to tell that you bought a motor
my question is: when you handed the money over, what did you think you were paying for? a 96 spec or a 98 spec?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
By asking a question you already know the answer to. Further elaborate on what "EMO" is and how ive expressed the aspects of it? You can ask away as long as it's helpful.</TD></TR></TABLE>

emo=sensitive
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Default Re: 96 98 (BlueR)

Found the receipt finally its a 00' Thanks for the help most of you.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Found the receipt finally its a 00' Thanks for the help most of you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

see, you can answer your own questions
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Found the receipt finally its a 00' Thanks for the help most of you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
with an oem 4-2-1 header, it's a 96-97 and the way you put it, you have a 4-2-1 header. i don't think you've found a conclusion because the receipt cannot be trusted if it's inconsistent with what you are seeing.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nightrider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
with an oem 4-2-1 header, it's a 96-97 and the way you put it, you have a 4-2-1 header. i don't think you've found a conclusion because the receipt cannot be trusted if it's inconsistent with what you are seeing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm good point. I will also be checking the head as soon as I get home today.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You could have asked your seller what year the car was before you bought it.

Check the stamp on the head. Right above the headers, a bunch of circles and see what year the head is.

There's no guarantee since heads could have been swapped.

Generally, if you got a header like that, it would be something found normally on a 96spec motor.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The header that is on it right now looks like the Spoon 4-2-1. Would the header be a 4-2-1 1 peice or a 4-2-1 2 peice.
The one on there looks like this exactly
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4-2-1 should be a 2 piece....well most that I've seen. Though I did see a kid that had his 2 pieces welded ( I don't know why so dont asl ) to make it look like one
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by failed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hmm good point. I will also be checking the head as soon as I get home today.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Was this out of a US car I'm assuming? What color?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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It is possible you have an aftermarket header if it looks IDENTICAL to the one you posted.

With the heat shield off and JDM 4-2-1 should look like this




(Yours wouldn't be black though, probably rust)

The stamp on the head is a good indicator for the year.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't know what you purchased?

why would an ITR motor come with CTR cams?</TD></TR></TABLE>


It comes with a CTR intake cam. They have "carbon" plug covers too, but of course that could easily have been put on.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTEXTC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It comes with a CTR intake cam. They have "carbon" plug covers too, but of course that could easily have been put on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you are telling me an ITR motor comes with a CTR cam?
an itr motor comes with itr cams, a ctr motor comes with ctr cams
how hard a concept is that?

what has a carbon plug cover? the thread starter hasn't even told us if its USDM or JDM
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are telling me an ITR motor comes with a CTR cam?
an itr motor comes with itr cams, a ctr motor comes with ctr cams
how hard a concept is that?

what has a carbon plug cover? the thread starter hasn't even told us if its USDM or JDM</TD></TR></TABLE>

96 Spec JDM ITR B18C = ITR cams
97-98 USDM ITR B18C5 = ITR cams
98 Spec JDM ITR B18C = CTR cams
00-01 USDM ITR B18C5 = "CTR" cams (very similar profile)

ITR and CTR exhaust cams are the same. As was already stated the 98 Spec B18C's have CTR intake cams, giving them "CTR cams".

98 Spec B18C's have a fake carbon plug cover. The pattern on the "carbon" plug cover, matches the "carbon" interior trim.

Also if you have a two piece header, you probably have a 96 Spec engine.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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i know the 98 spec ITR cams are the same as the CTR cams...
i know the 98 spec JDM motor has the fake carbon fiber cover...

nevermind...something was lost in translation

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