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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Alright i know how you all hate these threads, but I'm thinking on buying a 91 crx. I know a bit about cars, but i dont know what brand parts are good. Like here is what the car has on it right now:

91 TURBO CRX SI, mini me swap, ZC pistons and rods bored .010 over, 450cc dsm inject, Y8 vtec head ported and polished, t3 super 60 turbo, 8psi, Spearco FMIC, SAFC II, 16 inch motegi rims, tri-pillar pod with air/fuel and boost gauge, new head gasket, turbo has roughly 10K miles on it, MOtor has 60,000, B&M fuel pressure regulator, custom sub enclosure, mtx amplifier, flawless interior, mugen body kit molded into fenders, twin loop exhaust and open downpipe.

For example, is the t3 super 60 turbo a good turbo? Also how many miles is a lot for a turbo? And ive read about the mini me swap and that sounds like it was a good investment. He is asking $4,500 for it. It has no rust on it and just got a new pearl black paint job not to long ago. Does that sound like a reasonable price to most of you considering how much he has put into it?

Thanks for all the help from anyone. Ill post a pic of the car even though its not really worth posting because of the crappy quality. He is getting me more pics that are better quality tonight or tomorrow and ill make sure to post those.

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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ditch the safc and get a chipped pm6 or hondata for engine management.

i would expect a turbo with a turbo timer to last 80-100k miles.. w/o, maybe 50-80k miles. is that air fuel guage he has in the pillar tied to a wideband? or is it monitoring narrowband because if its tied to the narrowband, you might as well not even have it... and what is he using for boost control? maybe this is the reason for the blown headgasket..

either way, turbo's stress an engine, and if you arent smart about building your engine or boost and fuel management, then a turbo car might not be a great first choice. it says he is runing 8 psi, how is that managed? and i dont know of the strength of zc rods and pistons, but i dont believe they are forged.. so strength is an issue. atleast at 8 psi i would worry about it a lot, but that is just me.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Alright, thanks for the help. Ill ask him what hes using for boost control and about the headgasket. I dont know too much about turbos, other than how they basically work, but im going to read up on em the next couple of days so i can get some more info on them.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sanimalp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ditch the safc and get a chipped pm6 or hondata for engine management.

i would expect a turbo with a turbo timer to last 80-100k miles.. w/o, maybe 50-80k miles. is that air fuel guage he has in the pillar tied to a wideband? or is it monitoring narrowband because if its tied to the narrowband, you might as well not even have it... and what is he using for boost control? maybe this is the reason for the blown headgasket..

either way, turbo's stress an engine, and if you arent smart about building your engine or boost and fuel management, then a turbo car might not be a great first choice. it says he is runing 8 psi, how is that managed? and i dont know of the strength of zc rods and pistons, but i dont believe they are forged.. so strength is an issue. atleast at 8 psi i would worry about it a lot, but that is just me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did a little reading up on turbos, and when you say how is the boost managed. You are talking about is he using a wastegate or blow off valve right? Sorry for the noob qeustions, im just kind of new to turbos.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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i think he is refering to boost management as timing/fuel when the turbo is spooling(ed)

for example you can use hondata (which i will be using) or you can use a msd unit that does ignition for boost...
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Alright, i gotcha. Thanks alot.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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when i say boost management, i mean all of the above. does he have his wastegate and blow off valve tied in to a boost controller, manual or electronic? manual tells me that the person didnt have the ability to screw with boost levels unless he got out of his car, popped the hood, and changed the boost setting. electronic tells me that he has the ability to change boost in the cockpit, which is probably not a good idea on hondas because even a little boost variation can really stress the engine. i also mean how is it tuned, which was obvious because you said something about a safc, which in my book would be the wrong way to tune a honda. safc is a fun toy but for tuning it isnt really a tool. by this i mean it cant advance or retard timing or administer lots more fuel than the stock ecu is set up to deliver. it can trick the ecu into going into a heavier duty cycle, but what about peak boost. turboedit or crome or hondata are tools for tuning. all im saying is that the safc and turbo make me really nervous about reliability. i personnaly wouldnt drive it anywhere except maybe to a tuning shop with a chipped pm6 or a hondata setup waiting for me there. i also wonder about fuel system. is he boosted using the stock fuel system? cause thats a REALLY bad idea.

i sure wouldnt pay $4500 for it, unless it was the cleanest ef i had ever seen and i lived in california. out here, in colorado, a clean ef like that w/ turbo etc, would go for like $3k probably. if it was a junkyard turbo kit, it would go for bluebook. the fact of the matter is it seems that this person is trying to get all the money he put into this car back out of it, which with ef's especially is not a great game to play.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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ok cool.. thanks for the info..
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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wow x_X thats deep heh
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