I have a few question regarding purchasing oem fog lights for my 5th gen.

How bad can sandblasting be if it is done to the lenses of the lights? Will it hinder too much of the lighting because one reason i want some are to provide more light on the road.

Do you know of anywhere that you can buy new lenses? I have searched on the internet and ebay but couldn't find too much help.

I read that when purchasing true OEM fog lights, it should come with the basics and four inches of wire, rather than the depo ones which give you alot with the bundle.

What is the improvement of lighting if I were to install oem fog lights? And how hard is it to install?

Reason is that I may be able to get a great deal on some and want to make sure it would be worth it.Thanks

Here's a picture of said fog lights:


TIA

 

I'll try to help you out on this. I'll take your question one by one, although maybe out-of-order.

>>I read that when purchasing true OEM fog lights, it should come with the basics and four inches of wire, rather than the depo ones which give you alot with the bundle.

** From Honda, the kit included the complete harness, switches, wireties and instructions. It was intended to be a dealer installed item (much like the A/C kits offered for the 3rd Gens), so it had everything.

>>How bad can sandblasting be if it is done to the lenses of the lights? Will it hinder too much of the lighting because one reason i want some are to provide more light on the road.

** If from looking from the side (with the lights on) you can see the lens showing white, you're loosing efficiency. Ideally, they should remain perfectly clear. The same applies to the headlight capsules: mine were so pitted that a new set recovered about 30% of my output (much brighter)

>>Do you know of anywhere that you can buy new lenses? I have searched on the internet and ebay but couldn't find too much help.

** It will be manufacturer specific. IE: If they are Honda units, honda may still list sevicable parts in their accessories catalog.

>>What is the improvement of lighting if I were to install oem fog lights? And how hard is it to install?

** It's not so much how much as in what type of light. The fog light is different from either the headlights or a driving light. Traditionally they project a wide beam which illuminates a short distance ahead, but throws more towards the curb. Usually they are yellow or amber for the best penitration thru fog.
The OEM 5th gen kits from Honda required cutting the center bar in the lower grille on both ends to mount the fog / driving lamp.

Hope this helps.

P

 

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Damn I wouldn't want to be doing too much cutting if the lights had too much sandblasting done to it. Now I don't know if it'd be worth it then.

thanks for all your help

 

Anytime I can help, not a problem.
You were smart enough to ask b4 you committed.

Have you done anything with the headlamp capsules yet? If you've got anywhere near high-milage, your headlamp lens are sandblasted as well. This is often overlooked. Any improvement in your headlamp output will far outweigh any you would have seen from low mounted lamps (because they are mounted higher and can project furthur without casting shadows)

Ever wonder why they mount (what amounts to) movie set Klige Lights on the top of 4x4 rollbars? Height means distance.

P

 

Haven't done anything with headlamp capsules yet. My headlamp lenses appear to be perfectly clear to my knowledge. I have notice more domestic cars with more problems of sandblasting on the headlamp lenses than many imports for some reason, or maybe you are talking about something totally different.

If I were to install the fog lights, would the center bar be able to look the same as it did before cutting it? Theres no way in hell I could do this by myself, so my dad or brother could help me out. Thanks alot.

 

Okay need help with knowing all of the components.

The seller says "as far as I know if the car isnt wired for the fog lamps I am not sure that these will work for you. I dont know if anyone can wire these up for you or not. You may need to add a fuse or a relay into the car to make them work. Other than that i dont know."

Based on the picture and what it includes: Mounting brackets, screws, fog lamp switch for dash, "some wires", and plug(s).

What all would I need to set these up? Or would it be more of a hassle?

TIA

 

again, I'll answer one at a time

&gt;&gt;I have notice more domestic cars with more problems of sandblasting on the headlamp lenses than many imports for some reason, or maybe you are talking about something totally different.

** Same thing. Dodge Neons are notorious for it. It actually gets so you can't see thru the headlamp lens. Probably the worst I've seen.

&gt;&gt;If I were to install the fog lights, would the center bar be able to look the same as it did before cutting it? Theres no way in hell I could do this by myself, so my dad or brother could help me out. Thanks alot.

** The lower grille center bar location is the Honda location. You loose about 3" on each end (the lamps mount in the far corners of the lower grille. Your Ebay units MAY have to be differently mounted.

&gt;&gt;The seller says "as far as I know if the car isnt wired for the fog lamps I am not sure that these will work for you. I dont know if anyone can wire these up for you or not. You may need to add a fuse or a relay into the car to make them work. Other than that i dont know."

** The only models which have any pre-provisions for fog light installation (that I'm aware of) is the SE and the EX, both with the simulated wood dash trim and a slightly different console configuration. (the holes for the fog lamp switch is pre-cut (but has a plug in it) ahead of the shifter) None are pre-wired. if you had a true Honda OEM Fog lamp kit, it would be almost plug&Play.

---&gt; I'd email the EBay seller and ask for a copy of the installation instructions, and THEN make your discission; cuz this set does not sound Plug&Play - more like hack & swear!!

&gt;&gt;What all would I need to set these up? Or would it be more of a hassle?

** Your non-Honda lamp set?
1) A lighted rocker switch (You probably won't like the one it comes with)
2) 8' feet of either 10 or 12 gauge wire for wiring from the battery to a relay to the lamps.
3) Relay rated for 40 - 50 watts (H1 bulbs most likely)
4) 10' feet of 14 or 16 gauge wire for wiring from a fused power sourse to the switch to the relay.

Again, hope this helps

P

Edited for stupid, exhaustion induced typo errors


Modified by P_Adams at 3:53 AM 10/19/2005

 

Thanks a lot! I think I'd be getting myself into too much with purchasing this right now. Here's the link btw, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...sting

My gf's dad somewhat owns some junkyards, so i think i may see what i can find there and maybe get a good deal, or do the bumper running light conversion.

Thanks P.

 

I only read the first post, i don't know if this is what you may be looking for...
When lenses get a yellowish color, faded or aging... use some "compound", the same product used to make car paint look brand new again.
Apply some of the "compound" to the lenses, and scrub hard, the process can be repeated as many times as you desire, or until you reach the point where it won't get any better than that.
BTW, the compound can not be rough, or have small particles of "sand" on it, or that may not help until you use the right compound.

 

There have been several threads, in multiple Forums, about this subject.
Generally it involves sanding the lexan lens with as fine a wet/dry sandpaper as you can find, and then polishing it with either Jewelers' Rouge or semi-chrome polish (used to polish aluminum and chrome.

Personally, I won't commit to sanding lexan, so you'd be on your own.

P

 

you know you can buy the generic foglight kits on ebay for $50, they come with wires loomed, plugs, relay and switch. also have instructions so you can install them...also if you look there are places that have the honda accessory dealer installation papers, it will give you exact step by step instructons...

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only on the 96-97 accord bumpers, in his sig he lists a 95, which does not require any cutting of the bumper.
also the foglights in that auction are for a 96-97 accord, they will not fit a 94-95 front bumper, so i wouldnt suggest buying them.

 

94-95 style foglights look like this...

 

Thanks for the clarification. Since my immediate family own 3 '96-'97's, guess what series I researched.
From his illustration, it would appear he wasn't dealing with the "Full Set" (Lamps only)
And the other confusing point is the set he's looking at is listed fitting '94 thru '97 Accords, and they look nothing like Momstaxi's supplied picture

P

 

i believe this would be more up your alley...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

if you were really set on oem foglights though, it may prove more difficult because dealer accessory papers only list foglights as an option in 96+
i believe any oem 94-95 foglights would have to be sourced from jdm counterpart...

 

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Thanks, I was not aware that they did not come as an option on 94-95.

btw, if anyone needs a link for instructions, this may help... http://www.dhost.info/accordinfo/howto/fogs.html

 

on yeahh.. wet sanding is another opition.... but... wet sanding only with 1500 grip... and absolutely no dry sanding... that is not going to help..... even if it was a fine grip...
..so.... Wet sand it or use the compound!