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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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I have a 98 GSR its completelly stock... i have around 4-5k.. i dont know much about cars to be honest im new at all this modding... i do know i want to turbo it... with 4-5k what exactly should i do to it? just slap a turbo on or do other stuff first to get ready for the turbo? I live close to central florida turbo so id probably take it there... also on turbo-kits.com it says 8psi wit tuning does PSI go up?? for daily driving id want to keep the psi down is there a way to regulate it from inside of your car??? sorry for being such a noob... any help is much appreciated thx guys!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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A lot of good infomation in the forced induction forum. Search around to see what you should do. I would think you should update your suspension and brakes with your turbo. Drive carefully.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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8psi is a good number for stock internals. Yu can get boost controlers to help control the boost levels from inside.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Since I'm at work and bored.....I won't flame you to search. But you should anyway.

Try searching around the forced induction forum, or even reading up in http://www.howstuffworks.com.

It's good that you have a budget set, and to be honest, it's a pretty good one. You can do a lot with $4-5K. HOWEVER, it makes a big difference if you're having someone else do the work. Labor alone at a reputable turbo shop might be upwards of $1K alone.

In terms of power, the power your car can handle is about 300-320whp or so. That's about the general consensus. PSI (pounds per square inch) is just a pressure number. It doesn't always relate to how much power you're making. It's dependent on the turbo size, and lots of other factors. 8psi on a stock WRX turbocharger will not make nearly as much power as 8psi on a t4/t04 aftermarket turbo that many people put on their Hondas. Keep in mind, I'm not using the correct terminology. Turbo's don't really make the power, they are compressing and pushing air. The larger turbo will flow A LOT more air than a small turbo, thus allowing the engine to create more power.

People say "8-10psi is good for stock internals" because generally, people put in a turbo where 8-10psi is just enough for where the stock internals can handle up to. Again, it's dependent on your setup.

You can turn up the pressure (thus making more power) if you reinforce your motor. Our engines are not factory built for turbo, therefore it is limited in how much pressure/power it can take/make. If you want to make massive power, then you need to reinforce the weak parts of the engine. These include, but are limited to pistons, rods, sleeves, etc. Even non-engine specific parts might need to be stronger, like your axles, mounts, etc.

Yes, there is a way to regulate the amount of psi/boost that your turbo is pushing. But I won't get into that yet. It's kinda a complicated explanation, and there can be several things controlling that. Read up on those links I provided and check it out.

Good luck. Turbo is the best, y0.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redGSRguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lot of good infomation in the forced induction forum. Search around to see what you should do. I would think you should update your suspension and brakes with your turbo. Drive carefully.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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if i ran a setup with stock internals and 8psi, should i be hitting 13s? Sorry im at work and dont have much time to do extensive searching and whanted some quick answers, when i get home ill do some searching, thx guys!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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definately turbo it.. and get good engine management...
get like a full race or inline pro turbo kit.. theyre complete and very high quality.. then get hondata or something like that, and pay for a good tuning job.. Hondata will have tuners in your area that are good on their website.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efranklin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i ran a setup with stock internals and 8psi, should i be hitting 13s? Sorry im at work and dont have much time to do extensive searching and whanted some quick answers, when i get home ill do some searching, thx guys!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, read my reply. It depends on what the turbo size is. Most kits that are being sold are somewhat larger, and you should be able to. But again, I don't know what size it is.

Stock internals with an 8-10psi should run mid to high 12's on slicks. Street tires, maybe almost a second more.

As said above, tuning is key. When you're putting positive pressure in a system not designed for it, tuning is VERY important. Timing/fuel/temperatures/etc all have to be monitored.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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8 psi is a bull **** number to go by cause each turbo varies what one will throw out at 8 psi will be tottaly different.. i have a greddy turbo on my 01 GSR, pm me if u want some more info, i did the instal and the tunning and eveythign on my car and i can help u out
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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it wont let me private message u if you have aim IM me : ThursdayEF
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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First thing you should do is research it. I've never looked throught the FI articles on here, but http://www.team-integra.net is by far the most informative website, anything you could every think about is on that site
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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I also want you to consider that your car will need a lot more maintenance (spark plugs, oil changes, keeping an eye on air/fuel ratio and other engine parts). Make sure you really have enough money to cover future costs. Right now because of lack of money, my GS-R has no traction due to bald tires, no traction bars, and I have no suspension or aftermarket rims. Also, doing all of that work puts me about as fast as a stock Pontiac WS-6. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Integras (especially GS-Rs), but I really wish I had waited until I had a home and more money to play with. It really is a rich man's hobby. I honestly wish I could have done rims and suspension (no exterior mods for me) and just enjoyed my "slow" Integra and not have to constantly worry about traction and breaking my axles.

Just an older person's rant........
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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i did post on team-integra they told me to come here :-O!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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simply ......
boost it!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Personally I'm fixing out all the kinks and re-inforcing my suspension/braking before boosting.

I figure with a large rise in power the car will drive much differently (obviously).

Before boosting the route I'm taking is simply:

Rebuild the transmission with new synchros etc.
LSD
Better brakes
Full suspension.

Building a car is a lot like building a bridge, sure you can just slap a couple planks across a river, but building the supports that make the bridge stronger will guarantee better efficiency/effectiveness in the long run.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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I would have money to mod before turboing it... would u suggest building up suspension or the engine?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Building the engine you want to do when you boost primarily because running low-comp without boost is going to hurt your cars performance, if you're going with a low-comp rebuild do it at the same time as the turbo that way it can be tuned properly/accordingly.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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i know you want to boost..however the first mod i would do is suspension. if u do engine mods before u do suspension ur gonna be outperforming ur stock suspension (that sounds weird but u know what i mean)..so yea definitely think about doin suspension somewhere near the beginning of ur mods
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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i say get a turbo kit and of you have anything left just drop your car but not too low! just my 2 cents!
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since I'm at work and bored.....I won't flame you to search. But you should anyway.

Try searching around the forced induction forum, or even reading up in http://www.howstuffworks.com.

It's good that you have a budget set, and to be honest, it's a pretty good one. You can do a lot with $4-5K. HOWEVER, it makes a big difference if you're having someone else do the work. Labor alone at a reputable turbo shop might be upwards of $1K alone.

In terms of power, the power your car can handle is about 300-320whp or so. That's about the general consensus. PSI (pounds per square inch) is just a pressure number. It doesn't always relate to how much power you're making. It's dependent on the turbo size, and lots of other factors. 8psi on a stock WRX turbocharger will not make nearly as much power as 8psi on a t4/t04 aftermarket turbo that many people put on their Hondas. Keep in mind, I'm not using the correct terminology. Turbo's don't really make the power, they are compressing and pushing air. The larger turbo will flow A LOT more air than a small turbo, thus allowing the engine to create more power.

People say "8-10psi is good for stock internals" because generally, people put in a turbo where 8-10psi is just enough for where the stock internals can handle up to. Again, it's dependent on your setup.

You can turn up the pressure (thus making more power) if you reinforce your motor. Our engines are not factory built for turbo, therefore it is limited in how much pressure/power it can take/make. If you want to make massive power, then you need to reinforce the weak parts of the engine. These include, but are limited to pistons, rods, sleeves, etc. Even non-engine specific parts might need to be stronger, like your axles, mounts, etc.

Yes, there is a way to regulate the amount of psi/boost that your turbo is pushing. But I won't get into that yet. It's kinda a complicated explanation, and there can be several things controlling that. Read up on those links I provided and check it out.

Good luck. Turbo is the best, y0.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Good Info
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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its good to see some locals on the board

id go turbo if i were you

i also have some MIIINNTT Racing Hart wheels for sale too PM me!!
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