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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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What is the best sub $700 coilover I can get for my ek? I have seen omni, ugr, and skunk2. Which is the best of these and are there others that need mention as well?
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Best sub $700 coilover? (cbmprelude)

personaly I would go with ground control and maybe some tokico blues or the red konis for a cheep setup.

You can get a set of Koni reds on shox.com for 336.00 shipped and a set of ground controls off ebay for $275.00 shipped. Thats $611.00 total and when is all said and done in the future you can replace your shocks if you blow one, change your shocks to better ones or change spring rates wich you cant really do with the other setups.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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hmm thats a good idea. Are the reds rebound adjustable and how do they compare to the yellows?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbmprelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm thats a good idea. Are the reds rebound adjustable and how do they compare to the yellows?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the reds are adjustable but you have to compress the shock to adjust them, which can be a pita if you want to adjust them often and don't have access to that spiffy tool someone made that allows you to keep them on the car when adjusting. i think tyson knows what it is, i seem to remember him posting a link to it a while back...
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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dont use the tokico blues, you might as well keep your stock shocks, worst investment ever! koni yellows and some h&r race springs would also be a good combo. if thats your budget, dont waist your money on replacement shocks. go for a good set.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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for another $100-$200, you could get brand new koni yellows and ground controls
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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I think Im gonna skip on getting a radio and a sway bar and save for that koni/gc/top hat deal
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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What about GC w/ KYB AGX? The AGX are adjustable and can be had for around $300 off eBay. I was toying around with this idea but I have no clue what I wanna get. Just throwing something out there.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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I thought about this too, and then I checked out the shock dyno for the agxs, the adjustment range is in the middle not where you want it.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbmprelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought about this too, and then I checked out the shock dyno for the agxs, the adjustment range is in the middle not where you want it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh ok, thanks for responding. I suppose I will steer away from getting these shocks then. I guess I will learn how to read and check some shock dynos first before I decide. Thanks!
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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I think the Ksports are probably the best in that price range. Other people have their own opinion, but I have had a pretty good opportunity to test a lot of suspension products on my EM-1.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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"koni yellows and ground controls are the best ever, yeah!"
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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For the moment, our Apex coilovers are under $700 (not including shipping). Ok end cheap plug.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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yea I am very interested in the apexs espeicially after seeing some of the development work you are putting into the selects, however I would like to wait and see them tested on others. The koni and gc setup will soon go back to 1200 and that is way out of my price range. I believe money would be better put to use gettign a cheaper coilover and a good set of tires. The ksport and d2 (they are the same right) seem like a good idea, except for the fact that they don't offer different shock valving for their differing available spring setups, I'm guessing you are supposed to compensate for this by adjusting the rebound? I will look into them more though.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sky_captain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"koni yellows and ground controls are the best ever, yeah!" </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was being sarcastic. just making fun of the gc koni band wagon. good luck with your selction.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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If you order them through bodykitsnw I believe he gets custom valving done for custom spring rates also, I would call or PM him.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you order them through bodykitsnw I believe he gets custom valving done for custom spring rates also, I would call or PM him.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you refering to the ksports?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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yes
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you order them through bodykitsnw I believe he gets custom valving done for custom spring rates also, I would call or PM him.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I doubt it.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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why dont you ask him then, instead of just assuming?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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looks like we have a show down
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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You made the first assumption.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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No I purchased them and I believe after talking to him thats what he was doing for my custom rates. So once again talk to him if you doubt it.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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So you purchased them and "believe" you are getting custom valving? Why don't you know this for certain? I sure would.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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I read the for sale thread in the sponsors forum and I guess they do offer custom valving, but you are obviously not getting them for under $700. Questions I would ask if I were interested in buying a set:

-Who revalves them
-where are they revalved
-what is the lead time
-do I get before and after dyno's (so its not another JIC fiasco)
-what is the warranty on a revalved kit
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