well im tired of snapping axels at the track & the best deal ive found are the
gator-drag axles. so im wondering if anyone out thier is running with them & what are they like.

right now im only running 13.9 & my motor im building is going to be doing 11's to high 10's so i need some serious stuff .


thanks,
Tim

 

i got gator stage 3 and there working fine for me. 480hp and 24.5" slicks and still havent had a problem.

 

It will all depend on your setup. I have seen stock axles works up to 600 whp, I have also seen 700 whp axles break at 300 whp.

These are some of the things that you need to look for, I wrote this back long time ago.

A lot of drivetrain issues or so called "luck" all rely on your setup.

Many things to watch for on drivetrain and lonegtivity on your axles are:

Alignment - A perfect alignment will ensure that you have an equal amount of stress distribute evenly on both sides.

Ball Joint - This takes impact on the upward and downward movement, lack of this or blown/leaky ball joint will cause vibration that will put more stress on the axles.

Traction Bars - Having a traction bars will reduce the forward and backward movement of your LCA, again, less stress on the axles.

Clutch - Not so much of a type but how you drive the car, dumping the clutch from no enagement to full engagement will cause a lot stress from momentum that the clutch created. This is why we always suggest of pre-loading the clutch at launch or burn out. Your axles are assembled with specific tolerance and clearance, this is what enable it to be flexible with left and right turn. Some race axles have tighter clearances that requires wider radius of turn and this is why most of full race axles are not meant to be driven on the street Not saying that you can't drive it on the street, but you'll experience some clicking that is normal for thsi type of application, depending on the material that the internal are made of and clearance. Back to the pre-loading the clutch. Because there are clearance that needs to be met, at no engagement, you'll have that clearance space empty, as you dump the clutch, it'll create a momentum before the internal is locked and engage. This is another reason axle breaks as well.

LSD - Limited Slip Differential, without it, one of your axles will spins first causing all the transfer of power to distribute UN-Evenly on one side, versus EQUALLY on both sides. Again more stress on one side, causing that side to break first before the others.

Ride Height - Your car has a specific ride height from the factory to keep the axles as straight as possible. Lowering your car will change the ride height causing the axles to bind (bend) at an angle. Again, angled axles will not be able to take more stress than a staright axles. This is why we enforced of having your ride height as close as you can to factory height. This goes to tire height as well.

Motor Mount - Having a solid mounts or inserts will help tremendously in keeping your engine from rocking back and forth during acceleration, tremendous engine movement will cause more stress on the drive train.

There are more reasons and ways you can do to keep your axles in the best shape as possible. These are just a few that I can think of.

Keep in mind, Axles does not gives you any power, does not make your car lighter, does not make your car go any faster or run more MPH, doesn't give you better 60 or 330. All axles does is takes abuse and stress and ensuring that you'll get to the finish line

So the more things that you can do to keep your car as solid and as straight as possible will ensure the longetivity of your axles.

I have seen stock axles handle 400-500 whp and runs 10's all day long, Joe Simpson is a prime example, I also have seen 500 whp axles break at 300 whp. Again it all depends on your setup, nothing more than that.

Hope this helps at all...

stan

 

i got gator stage 2's love them got them from stan 6 months ago over 500whp and no problems

 

gator racing AXELS are real good il give a bump for them.i know one of the guys who makes them.

 

the guys over at GATOR AXLES are real good ppl we run them all in our cars at the shop i work at and in my car for going on about 4 years now and never a broke them and i am hard on them glen and buddy have seen it in person at the track but anyways yes they are kick as axles you wont be sorry good luck to you and your new motor.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL IMPORT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well im tired of snapping axels at the track & the best deal ive found are the
gator-drag axles. so im wondering if anyone out thier is running with them & what are they like.

right now im only running 13.9 & my motor im building is going to be doing 11's to high 10's so i need some serious stuff .


thanks,
Tim</TD></TR></TABLE>

We are running STOCK "AUTOZONE" refurbished axles. They last us 7-8 runs and we are pushing 512whp and 362 torque......No problems whatsover....depends how you launch will determine how long your axles last.

Bye the way...we have consitantly hit 9's and low 10's.....

And after you ran 8 times....just pull the axles out...and return them at AUTOZONE for the LIFETIME GUARANTEE and get free fresh ones.

All Squeeze Racing
First Honda from the Bay ARea in the 9's
LDL SPEED SHOP

 

DEFINETLY THE BEST AXELS EVER MADE !!!!!!!!!!

I'VE BROKEN AROUND 6-8 TRANNYS IN LAST 5 MONTHS & I HAVE NEVER BROKEN A GATOR AXEL...
I HAD MY HP's AXELS FOR A YEAR NOW. WE ARE MAKING 759WHP & THEY PROBABLY HAVE AROUND 100-120 PASES PLUS DAILY DRIVEN... NO PROBLEMS!

PLUS YOU WILL NEVER FIND BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE THAN GATOR AXELS ...
DON'T MATTER THE TIME OR PLACE THEY ALWAYS MANAGE TO FIXED MY PROBLEMS...

LIKE GLEN WOULD SAY "HOW TOUGH IS YOUR AXEL BETWEEN YOUR NUTS" ...

SPECIAL THANKS TO GLEN & BUDDY, FOR THERE SUPPORT.... WE OWE YOU GUYS ....

FERNANDO @ CFT

Modified by tunedbycft at 6:17 PM 10/14/2005


Modified by tunedbycft at 6:18 PM 10/14/2005

 

[QUOTE=tunedbycft]DEFINETLY THE BEST AXELS EVER MADE !!!!!!!!!!

I'VE BROKEN AROUND 6-8 TRANNYS IN LAST 5 MONTHS & I HAVE NEVER BROKEN A GATOR AXEL...
I HAD MY HP's AXELS FOR A YEAR NOW. WE ARE MAKING 759WHP & THEY PROBABLY HAVE AROUND 100-120 PASES PLUS DAILY DRIVEN... NO PROBLEMS!


i rather break and axle then a tranny in my opinion stick with auto zone

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by og asr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

We are running STOCK "AUTOZONE" refurbished axles. They last us 7-8 runs and we are pushing 512whp and 362 torque......No problems whatsover....depends how you launch will determine how long your axles last.

Bye the way...we have consitantly hit 9's and low 10's.....

And after you ran 8 times....just pull the axles out...and return them at AUTOZONE for the LIFETIME GUARANTEE and get free fresh ones.

All Squeeze Racing
First Honda from the Bay ARea in the 9's
LDL SPEED SHOP</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, I bet they love you guys

 

i just ordered 2 sets of gator 300M axles. one set for my daily driven SI and the other for over drag crx . I'll let you know who they turn out

 

gator axles

 

I agree, There is no reason at all to waste your money on hub, brake and caliper changes and pay all that coin on some stage 5 BS. Just swap in a set of 300m Gators and you are done. I have 46 passes this season and not one problem. 38 of those passes were 10.27 or faster.

Thanks Glen

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, There is no reason at all to waste your money on hub, brake and caliper changes and pay all that coin on some stage 5 BS. Just swap in a set of 300m Gators and you are done. I have 46 passes this season and not one problem. 38 of those passes were 10.27 or faster.

Thanks Glen </TD></TR></TABLE>

What were the other 8 passes?

 

Gator axles all the way
great customer service
1.51-1.52 60's all day- never broke, great axle

TEAM GATOR glenn & bud
POWERLINE 407-707

 

funny post, a year on the axles, broke 6 trannys 759 hp street driven honda, hey man if thats true congrats. i know you floridians are out of this world like that. I cant remember who said it but the auto zone axles i think are the smartest route. Lifetime guarantee? thats awesome your bound to break them, and if you can get a couple sets and will be free to replace, i go with that. there is other places i would like to spend my money, as we all know this sport is damn expensive.

 

I never broke a axle with hundreds of slick launches on Carquest remans. True you can go back when you break one and get a new one but the point of aftermarket axles is so you don't have to change a axle or break one on the line in a race.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I never broke a axle with hundreds of slick launches on Carquest remans. True you can go back when you break one and get a new one but the point of aftermarket axles is so you don't have to change a axle or break one on the line in a race. </TD></TR></TABLE>

AMEN

 

everyone gave them a but i have an all motor car and a differring opinion. i wouldnt sell them to the mexican down the street. complete garbage axles. broke 5 of those POS axles and im still waiting on my replacements to be sent back to me. i sent them off 2-3 weeks ago.
not only are they more expensive than DSS i havent had my DSS axles break yet.
DSS all the way.

anyone want some GR stage 3s and hubs when i get mine back??? FOR SALE!!!!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone gave them a but i have an all motor car and a differring opinion. i wouldnt sell them to the mexican down the street. complete garbage axles. broke 5 of those POS axles and im still waiting on my replacements to be sent back to me. i sent them off 2-3 weeks ago.
not only are they more expensive than DSS i havent had my DSS axles break yet.
DSS all the way.

anyone want some GR stage 3s and hubs when i get mine back??? FOR SALE!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of power are you putting down with your all motor set-up, and 60 fts??

POWERLINE 407-707

 

only dynoed once, no tuning done, just cam gear changes 220+150. 60s in the mid to upper 1.6s. last year when i broke all the axles it was done on a exedy organic clutch, when i broke the 2 this year it was on a action unsprung 6 puck.

 

u hit up all the gator axles threads and kill them good job

 

and all the utah guys love to slam me for stating the facts.

its funny cause the whole time when someone posts up the GRA threads and me and the utah boys state our opinions it never occurs to them that 1. i run an all motor car even though ive stated it millions of times 2. its my informed opinion 3. usually the case is that im not even on the same axles as you guys, i dont run the 300M axles that you guys rave about. i ran the PRE 300M standard GRA stage 3s. the stage 3s lasted what 6 passes???? you guys want me to quit stating my opinion, then quit stating yours.

 

never said i run the gator 300m for a fact i run dss axles but bucka nd cort have them and like them i didnt say u were wrong or not just saying you like to kill them on all threads that the gator threadfs come about good job keep up the hard work j/k

 

i think court and buck are the 2 that love me the most in those threads.
yeah i work on the GRA threads when i come across them. i mean, really you cant blame a guy that spends more money on some GRA than DSS, proceeds to break 1 right after the other, has been sworn the world to him by gator glen himself. sends axle after axle to florida next day air on my own dime $75 then hurricanes delayed shipment which obviously isnt my or his deal. gets the exact same runaround every single time. hows your alignment, is your car too low, you must be having wheel hop, how much HP etc etc etc. then he swears up and down "you will not break this axle." second event out, break the ****** thing. alright, time to step up to the next level. pay yet more money for the stage 3s and they make it 6 ****** passes. thats my story and im sticking to it.
finally buy some DSS axles and have had no failure yet. you tell me how i should feel???

i should also ad to the original poster that at only 13.9 he shouldnt be breaking axles yet. i would guess your car is extremely heavy. i personally didnt have too many axles breaking until i put the cage in my car, then all hell broke loose. i broke 1 stock axle as a street car running mid 12s all day. made the car full race broke no axles, added the cage to same car same motor and 4 or 5 stockers later and 5 GR axles later im on DSSs.