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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Just wonderin guy which motor do u guys think would be faster thx guys
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Weird question to ask, but LSVTEC. More torque.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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But i pull on ls-v all the time but people keep sayin its faster
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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ctr's have good tranny's. LS's have longer gearing. Maybe that is why it seems that way to you.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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all things being equal (cams tranny ect) the ls/v would be faster....
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Hmmm.... i c so wat ur saying is that because my gearing is shorter thats y im able to beat ls-V
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLaCkMaNEg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm.... i c so wat ur saying is that because my gearing is shorter thats y im able to beat ls-V</TD></TR></TABLE> possibly. another thing to look at is the weight factor. what car was the ls/v in.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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ls/vtec....
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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well i have a ls/v with 11.1 compresion in a 93 gsr with a b17 tranny.. and i have never had a problem with a b16a/ or b. they are impressive motors though... love the tranny
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all things being equal (cams tranny ect) the ls/v would be faster.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd agree.
Because Lsvtec is so vauge a term *lord knows whats in it* its not a very fair thing to compare.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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i beat lsv's all day long. now if it had a turbo that would be different, but i kill my friends lsv in his eg coupe and beat him everytime. hes a good driver too. we both have stock engines with intake and exhaust
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EZCIVIC TYPE R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i beat lsv's all day long. now if it had a turbo that would be different, but i kill my friends lsv in his eg coupe and beat him everytime. hes a good driver too. we both have stock engines with intake and exhaust</TD></TR></TABLE>

your friend does not have a stock motor if he has an ls/vtec.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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if your b16 can beat his ls/vtec there is something wrong with your motor....ls/vtec with b16 tranny vs a b16 swap in the same shell, the ls/vtec will always come out 1st
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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ls/vtec with what?

ITR Cams?
Buddy club cams?
Skunk2 cams?
Blox cams?
B18C1 Head?
B16A2 head?
any headwork?
What header?
What tranny?
LSD?
What clutch?
Engine management?


Read up.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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lmao you prolly have a crx HF and he prolly has a eg coupe LX with 18's and a full interior with a system....

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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I've have also beaten LS/VTEC with my B16B in my EK9, 13.3 sec ET

LSVTEC in EG6 (p30 pistons, b16 tranny, stage 2 cams, I/H/E) 13.5 sec ET

LSVTEC in DC2 (p30 pistons, stage 2 cams, gsr tranny, I/H/E) 13.5 sec ET

LSVTEC in EG Coupe (supposedly a fully built motor from some company, high comp, big cams, etc.) 14.1 sec ET

ALL RUNNING SLICKS AT THE TRACK.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEMNTD1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've have also beaten LS/VTEC with my B16B in my EK9, 13.3 sec ET

LSVTEC in EG6 (p30 pistons, b16 tranny, stage 2 cams, I/H/E) 13.5 sec ET

LSVTEC in DC2 (p30 pistons, stage 2 cams, gsr tranny, I/H/E) 13.5 sec ET

LSVTEC in EG Coupe (supposedly a fully built motor from some company, high comp, big cams, etc.) 14.1 sec ET

ALL RUNNING SLICKS AT THE TRACK.</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock vs stock ls/vtec will win period. same skilled driver and same trannies in the same shell
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SB tuning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your b16 can beat his ls/vtec there is something wrong with your motor....ls/vtec with b16 tranny vs a b16 swap in the same shell, the ls/vtec will always come out 1st </TD></TR></TABLE>

if my type r beats his lsv, then there is nothing wrong with my motor! something must be wrong with his motor! there both good quick engines but i always come out on top against him, but its only about half a car. anyways i'm done wit the b-series, its time for me to move on to the K! if anyone got a descent kswap hit me up. no k20a3's!


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEMNTD1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've have also beaten LS/VTEC with my B16B in my EK9, 13.3 sec ET

LSVTEC in EG6 (p30 pistons, b16 tranny, stage 2 cams, I/H/E) 13.5 sec ET

LSVTEC in DC2 (p30 pistons, stage 2 cams, gsr tranny, I/H/E) 13.5 sec ET

LSVTEC in EG Coupe (supposedly a fully built motor from some company, high comp, big cams, etc.) 14.1 sec ET

ALL RUNNING SLICKS AT THE TRACK.</TD></TR></TABLE>

THANK YOU! I dont know why these guys think its imposible to beat lsv's
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lmao you prolly have a crx HF and he prolly has a eg coupe LX with 18's and a full interior with a system....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope, we both have full interiors in the same cars.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EZCIVIC TYPE R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if my type r beats his lsv, then there is nothing wrong with my motor! something must be wrong with his motor! there both good quick engines but i always come out on top against him, but its only about half a car. anyways i'm done wit the b-series, its time for me to move on to the K! if anyone got a descent kswap hit me up. no k20a3's!


THANK YOU! I dont know why these guys think its imposible to beat lsv's


Nope, we both have full interiors in the same cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah thats true....
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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STOCK LSVTEC with GSR/B16 tranny vs B16B

ill assume an EG CX chassis

my vote is for CTR all day long. why you say:

CTR has a higher reliable redline
LS/VTEC cannot rev safely past 8000rpms
CTR has better gearing and LSD

what the CTR doesnt have in TQ it makes up for it on the top end, IMO.

stock vs stock the CTR will make 1-5 more whp. (150-155) vs (145-150whp)

I dynoed a STOCK CTR motor and it made 157whp. i dynoed a STOCK lsvtec and it made 147whp. thats on our dyno, but ill be more general in my numbers.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecKiDD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I dynoed a STOCK CTR motor and it made 157whp. i dynoed a STOCK lsvtec and it made 147whp. thats on our dyno, but ill be more general in my numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How can you say you dynoed a stock LS/V when the motor was never produced by honda? When you say that, do you mean stock as in a stock b18a/b bottom end with a stock VTEC head? If so, then yeah, i agree, a CTR would pull on it.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can you say you dynoed a stock LS/V when the motor was never produced by honda? When you say that, do you mean stock as in a stock b18a/b bottom end with a stock VTEC head? If so, then yeah, i agree, a CTR would pull on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so how about a ls/vtec with ctr head and cams and ctr tranny.....ls/vtec would win... you guys arent being fair to the ls/vtec.....no way a b16b will win.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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STOCK LSVTEC=STOCK LS bottom end, STOCK B16 Head

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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stock ls/vtec = any stock honda head which would included b18b head and b18c5 head
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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honestly, a 200whp lsvtec vs. a 200 hp b16b, same tranny, same car, i think the lsvtec would win.

now of course, a 12 sec b16b, vs. a 13 sec lsvtec.. the b16b would win duh.
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