Who knows something about this?

http://www.honda-acura.net/for...00111

I have a customer who saw this and wants to swap to h22 in his 6th gen. As I have found out, this isn't a very popular swap. Seems this person spent 15g on this swap, so I am guessing there are NO 6th gen h22 swap kits? WHY THE HELL NOT? Who wants to work with me on making one?

 

Most H22's are OBD1 while the Accord is an OBDII which makes it more difficult, most 6th gens were also auto instead of manual so there's more labor intensive swapping.

I dont know, i'd just go with a boosted F series, they can take 10 lbs of boost and with an upgraded tranny will run reliably.

 

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He spend to so much money because he strapped a turbo on it; plus he was one of the first to go through with this swap, which btw was many years ago.

The swap has been done, but there is plenty of info online.

The trickiest part is the wiring from the OBDII components --&gt; OBDI [assuming you are installing a JDM H22 OBDI] For example, the EGR, IAC, Distributor, etc.

Use all of the accord mounts and brackets and axels.

 

The f series mounts will accept the H series motor just fine as far as I know... Am I totally retarded for assuming that? I've bought haltec mount kits in the past for customer swaps and it says on the package/instructions that the kit works for h and f series. The only thing that makes me think twice would be if the only hoop to jump through is the wiring, why haven't more people done that swap? H22 is a great motor, so I would think that 6gen swaps would be out there everywhere if it was just wiring that was the prob.

Boosting the f23 is the backup plan at this point.

This actually IS one of those rare 6gen manual accords. They do exist

 

Honestly I am a prelude guy.

BUt I dont see why if this isnt an easy swap.

buy an obd2 h22.

H and F have the same mounts.

hey the H23 vtec motor comes out of an accord.

um I dont know what year the euro r accord is but it is an obd2

1.so plan is buy an obd2 h22 or h23 vtec (or us h22a4 out of a 97-2001 lude) make sure the obd2 is the right one for the car (ie obd2a or obd2b).
2.use the motor mounts in the car or a combination.
3. use cars wire harness and modify what ever has to be done.

 

Oh I just remembered your going to have problems with the immobilizer. so I think you either have to use an obd2 ecu with out immobilizer or go to obd1 ecu.

 

Yeah, I was pretty sure that the H/F mounts were identical. So really the only problem is with wiring. I mean... hell, there's no reason that I couldn't tear the whole goddamn harness out and replace harness/ecu from a prelude. The thing I wonder is: why the hell is the H22 swap into a 5th gen accord so popular, while the 6th gen seems to be completely ignored?

 

it has the rep to back up the swap, and its a better fit for power freeks that want a sleeper

edit; and i dont know about the 6th gen but the 5th gens mounts are a perfect fit fo the h22 i would just recommend getting new ones because the stock mounts are not the strongest

 

well the problem with ripping out the 6th gen harness and rewireing. do you mean the engine harness or the interor? because the prelude has the immobilizer to. the only thing you can do is run a 96 prelude p13 computer for obd2 or run a p13 obd1 with a conversion harness.

 

I think hasport made a kit to swap an h22 into a acura cl

acura cl has the f23 2.3l motor in it

what do you think the possibility is that those mounts will work as h22 into accord mounts

ive got a very good feeling that those mounts will work

 

I looked at the hasport site and I didn't see anything... perhaps I will take another (closer) look.

I was referring to the engine harness. Use a prelude harness on the engine and an OBD2 ECU from a prelude as well. The interior harness from the accord should connect correctly if I remember right.

Explain "immobilizer" ?

 

sorry maybe i was wrong about them being made by hasport ive seen them somewhere though ill check into it to

 

ok I dont think you guys understand that the h and f have the same mounts. use the mounts for your car. there might be little things different but the majority of the time your mounts in an accord will fit fine on the h22. sometimes you have to tap the tranny for stubs.but there are already holes.


The immobilizer is a computer/ key thing. I know 97+preludes have them I assume accords have them.

The key in the ignition has to match the immobilizer for the car to run.

so if you switch computers the keys will not match with the immobilizer. so you have to run a 92-96 p13 h22 ecu. the 96 is the only obd2 h22 ecu without the immobilizer

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kulrevon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok I dont think you guys understand that the h and f have the same mounts. use the mounts for your car. there might be little things different but the majority of the time your mounts in an accord will fit fine on the h22. sometimes you have to tap the tranny for stubs.but there are already holes.


The immobilizer is a computer/ key thing. I know 97+preludes have them I assume accords have them.

The key in the ignition has to match the immobilizer for the car to run.

so if you switch computers the keys will not match with the immobilizer. so you have to run a 92-96 p13 h22 ecu. the 96 is the only obd2 h22 ecu without the immobilizer </TD></TR></TABLE>


What he said.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kulrevon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok I don't think you guys understand that the h and f have the same mounts. use the mounts for your car. there might be little things different but the majority of the time your mounts in an accord will fit fine on the h22. sometimes you have to tap the tranny for stubs.but there are already holes.


The immobilizer is a computer/ key thing. I know 97+preludes have them I assume accords have them.

The key in the ignition has to match the immobilizer for the car to run.

so if you switch computers the keys will not match with the immobilizer. so you have to run a 92-96 p13 h22 ecu. the 96 is the only obd2 h22 ecu without the immobilizer

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Will the Accord transmission and drive-axles fit perfect with the H22 in the Accord frame?

 

dont use the accord transmission get one with the swap

 

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Will the Accord transmission and drive-axles fit perfect with the H22 in the Accord frame?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes

 

Simply stunned. It apalls me that hybrid (h22) 6th gen accords aren't a dime a dozen... it just doesn't seem like there is any real difficult hurdle to clear to make the swap happen, so why aren't people doing this?

 

$$$$$$$ and not many people are doing it so it does not have a good rep yet why dont you start a new trend

 

I might just have to do that. I LOVE the H22. One of the best motors honda has ever made. I had a customer who contacted me that wanted to do an H series swap. I looked around and couldn't find good aftermarket support, so I convinced him to turbo his F23 instead. However, if the mounts are not a problem, maybe the H swap can and SHOULD be done. Electronics and tuning and wiring are not a problem. Wedging in an engine that doesn't fit and doesn't have proper mounts is.

 

Well, it mounts up perfectly.

 

So Bionic, how can you claim it fits perfectly?

Have you done it yourself?

 

uh-hu

3 Years ago.

 

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