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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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I wanted to Congratulate Bruno on his new personal best time of 10.63 which is also the new Canadian A/M record.

I also wanted to ask some Q's about some of the rumours I have heard this week. Unfortunately, some of Bruno's opponents feel that the car was being assisted because it pulled so hard at the top end of the quarter; especially while in 3rd gear. I am disappointed to hear that several of Bruno's opponents feel that Bruno was using something to get an edge. Some feel that propylene oxide (liquid nitrous) was used in his fuel and one opponent even said that: "The car pulled so hard at the top end that it looked as though the car was being sprayed." (NOS or CO2). At the beginning of the day his car is seen with an intake running in the low 11's. Until the end of the day where he beat the record running 10.7's and 10.6's apparently (even photos will show) without an intake on the car. I am wondering how the car was better without an intake pipe. When other competitors actually confronted Bruno, he seemed to be very uncomfortable and acted as if he was caught stealing candy by his Mom. It disappointes me to think that ANY competitor would cheat at our Canadian events. But on the other hand it does happen regularly in motorsports. What I am trying to figure out is whether someone else has any input on this issue because I would like to know for sure if Bruno broke the Canadian A/M record or the Canadian Nitrous record?


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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Congrats on the fast times.
I heard there are a good number of Canadian All Motor cars going for the 9s.

It may be the fastest, the only all motor running that I've noticed from Canada is the old Venom Civic, I think that was only low 11s.

Wondering, why would you ask if it broke the Canadian Nitrous Record? hehe.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Why is it every time someone runs fast they where cheating???

same thing was said here in canada when we got the record if his competitors
felt he cheated they just had to say it at the track and get the car to tech.
we stopped racing in quebec just because of storys like, we where running 8sec in quebec before any other racer even went 9sec every time we heard "oh the car is not legal this and that well guess what we have the only NDRA-Nhra legal P4C car in Quebec, I mean if the cry babies would put as much energys in theyre car as they do crying about other racers they would go faster to,

Maybe he did cheat maybe he didn't now is to late to cry about it

it's real easy to asume anything now that the car is not up for inspection and the race is over


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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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damn dont be gettin frenchy all pissed off. i need him in top drinking form friday night.

and all motor cars should be pulling good on the top end. if you can get the incrementals and he has a descent 60' but he went like 130 mph for a 10.60 pass then you might want to look further into it. if he went like 125-128 then its about right for a 10.60 pass.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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timeslips will prove somewhat if the car was on nitrous or not. Not doubting the times, but to shut everyone up, jus gotta let us know what the slip says.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Not Really, if you know how to hold your RPM and sandbag, you will maintain a constant RPM. (Ever have a cop follow you on the street, and try to maintain speed... same thing)
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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It's funny it keep reading the same garbage on the boards, nos this nos that, you think all the money ETD has in there car they should at least be some what competive they broke our previous record with a 10.74 the funny thing is that they never came close to hitting that time again so maby they were spraying something last year. Just for the record after the finals the tech director inspected the car after the run so for these teams to spout off there mouth is honestly quite pathetic, there sponsors names getting dragged doun with there own names in the mud.
Maby if ETD could build a motor and Altech get a better driver maby the tissues will be put a way and the crying stops.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by therealpoorboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn dont be gettin frenchy all pissed off. i need him in top drinking form friday night.

and all motor cars should be pulling good on the top end. if you can get the incrementals and he has a descent 60' but he went like 130 mph for a 10.60 pass then you might want to look further into it. if he went like 125-128 then its about right for a 10.60 pass.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He ran a 10.67 @ 124mph

dont worry IM always ready for beer
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Wow give it up ETD its over!!!!! Bruno has the record its not the end of the world!!!! Im sick of responding to these stupid threads on 4 different boards about how they cheated. Steve the CSCS Tech Director inspected the car and it passed his inspection so what that means is that it is a record. As much as you bitch and groan its his now. Guess what you have the chance this weekend in Ohio to re claim your title. Get to the dyno fix your car and forget about the web board trashing.

Good job Bruno

Im sure Steve will be in on this soon to give his Tech info on the Nawzz Claim


See everyone in Ohio
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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WOW! This is getting outta hand.. John@ETD is never on the forums as he is too busy. I usually monitor them and this is the first thread I have seen, so let me tell you, this was not started by John or I.

I was witness to John congratulating Bruno at the top of the track. Nothing really blew up, until Joe came back amazed at how Bruno suddendly pulled on him, when Joe was pulling on him in the 1st 1/8 mile.

People gotta stop trashing John and Joe, as neither of them are involved in this thread.

We will all be in Ohio, and hopefully one of the 4 A/M cars can reset the Canadian record this weekend...

Enjoy.....
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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if he was caught with hand in the cookie jar why would he let John and Joe look over the car, also bruno offered them to take a sample of our gas, also the reason why we were not doing to hot during the day was becasue we had axle issues which were fixed and thats when bruno let the car go to what is supposed to do, everyone that know bruno and Nutek crew know that we do not have to cheat to achive our goals, since the begining we have been the underdogs that achieving our goals and breaking records, it also took Vibrant 3 years and a pile of cash to break our record, what did they think we were going to do sit around with our thumbs stuck up our asses specialy since we had told them about our new engine that was going in this year.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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I have no clue on why people have got to be bitter and always look for some sort of cheating excuse if their record gets beat.

Everyone knows that Bruno has been knocking on the door for a while and has really gotten his car to hook. Not only did he make the record run, he also backed it up with a 10.71 I believe.

Pulling 3rd gear?......hmmmm have any of you canadian's ever heard of playing with the gear ratios to put your car in the power band? Not as easy as running a type r tranny. It's only going to get you so far before you run out of gear and not shifting in your power band.

All you (canadian all-motor) guy are going to be in Ohio.... put it to a rest... advance your timing do what it takes, trust me the NDRA tech inspectors are going to let any BS fly!!!!

Kudo's to Bruno and the whole Authority Crew for getting the title and being prfessional about this B.S.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Really it's funny how in pits you guys were making stupid imature coments and justures to the nutek team after you were told that the car was legit, dont worry we will see in ohio and well will leave it at that.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Bisi is STILL running 10.2 on a single cam in all motor. Only a handful of cars are faster than him, and they're all B/H/K series.

He's had his motor torn apart by officials more than he's had to tear it apart from breaking it.

If you pass the inspection, you win, and it's a record.

end of story.

Congrats
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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well have to wait and see this weekend

I dont understand why all the questions around this. A low budget team comes out and runs a big number, they make every event and work hard. Dont they desrve to be on top... dont they deserve some credit.

The CSCS doesnt need to protrayed on here as the WWE of sport compact drag racing... the drama shouldnt be involved. Expecially drama of this sort... Bruno stepped it up, just like John did last year at this time... whats the big deal, I dont think there was a ETD was cheating threa last year was there???

All the Canadian racers need a big round of appluase casue they are all making leaps and bounds for the support we get here in canada... and with threads like this its only gonna make canadian racers look unprofessional and unable to be real racers. WE all know that some of the biggest names in the industry call honda-tech home... is this the way we wanna show them how our racers act? I dont think so... the truth will be told this weekend comming, im sure were gonna see some great racing, and the factt hat Canada has 4 pro stock cars comming out is great... maybe well see some good racing, all 4 cars have been into the 10s... which is a big achivment for us...
Good luck to everyone in ohio.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Making a pit stop at the Beer Store... Any pro guys wanting Canadian Brew?


got to make light of this farce......

NDRA is CALLING YOU OUT- settle this drama like men, hit the track!!
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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to answer some of your questions... First of all we ran the car with an intake pipe. please show me a pic with us running with it off? 2nd, Bruno was shocked, not uncomfortable at the fact that he was being asked if we where spraying. if you look at our 1/8th mile time it was 101mph and our trap was 124mph. dont you think if we where to spray we would have a better trap? and i also think we would run a better time then 10.67? and on top of it.. we where using ******* fuel.that was the very first event that we ran c12. we usually run c16. Every event this year our car has ran faster and faster. On sept 18 we ran 10.80 three times. and we even hit 126mph trap. we have been racing for 4years now. why would we screw everything up to try and break a record? we had the season won for points. we were running the fastest almost all year. why would we go ruin all that for a record? especially at the last event of the year. to people who hate.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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We'll be there..... We did back to back tuning runs after we were eliminated, just to get the car sorted for the NDRA event.

Bill - Your correct, we did not cheat for our record. I WILL NEVER be a member of a cheating team, I think we all know how I like to follow the rules.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Can you just relax and stop acting like a bunch of children.
Honestly.. this team puts so much hard work into their car.
Give them some credit... and just relax. Stop with the drama already.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by authority1
It's funny it keep reading the same garbage on the boards, nos this nos that, you think all the money ETD has in there car they should at least be some what competive they broke our previous record with a 10.74 the funny thing is that they never came close to hitting that time again so maby they were spraying something last year.
We backed our 10.74 up with a 10.78 the same event, and also ran multiple 10.8x, and 10.9xs. When we did hit the 10s, we actually broke our own record of 11.01, we basically had the record for most of the 2004 season.

Forward to 2005... Running on our 11.01 motor from 2004 all season as we were still waiting for parts for our good engine. Car ran a best of 10.8x with that setup. We were happy, old faithful was running bulletproof and getting quicker and quicker.

Last event 2005 - New Head is finished, head is ripped off old faithful and new head is installed. Car went to dyno, but new header cracked and tuner had to goto a family dinner @ 5pm. We're screwed... Car is tuned to 9000rpm and decision is made to goto event and do our best! Ended up doing some track tuning and raised RPM to 9700rpm with some SOTP tunning. Car ran 104 in the 1/8 during tuning and 125mph in 1/4. Too bad with rolled the beams and got a 1.8x 60ft and 11.1 time slip. We usually hook 1.4xs, we we were happy! Decision was made to head south to NDRA, after Marc (Me), Joe (Altech) and Shant (Kedimoto) break John's ***** to take the car since we were going anyways..

Originally Posted by authority1
Maby if ETD could build a motor and Altech get a better driver maby the tissues will be put a way and the crying stops.
That is just not cool.... John and Joe are not here, did not start this and should not be thrashed. Heck, I did not start this, but am a little upset to see this. Personally I don't think the car was on N20, but I did see Joe pull Bruno hard at around the 330ft mark, only to get smoked in the top. (I was in the truck, going to pickup our car)

I think one of the biggest issues is that bruno missed the call for the semi-finals, we we told to fire up our motor and run, only to be shut down by one of the CSCS twins. Even the track girl was pissed and wanted us to run. We all thought Joe was on a bye run into the finals, then outta no-where Nutek's car is off jack stands and in the lanes (After a whole bunch of waiting) and bangs off a 10.67 with ease, when they had been struggling all day.

Originally Posted by authority1
Really it's funny how in pits you guys were making stupid imature coments and justures to the nutek team after you were told that the car was legit, dont worry we will see in ohio and well will leave it at that.
Now your killing me, I was insulted by your crews comments while we were packing up, especially the older lady. We have always offered our assistance and help to all the All-Motor Guys... I remember when Shant was having clutch issues and John told him to come get our backup Tilton clutch and put it in his car! Or when someone else was having hooking issue and was amazed at our 1.4x 60fts and John just offered up our spring rates which differed a lot from theirs.

We will be in Ohio.... I can't wait....

Originally Posted by authority1
bruno offered them to take a sample of our gas,
Our sanctioning bodies don't test gas or pump motors due to equipment limitations.. What makes you think they would have the correct equipment?

Unfortunatly, guys were cheating in the Street All-Motor class last year and got away with it and bragged about it all winter. This has a bad taste in everyone's mouth now...
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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We backed our 10.74 up with a 10.78 the same event, and also ran multiple 10.8x, and 10.9xs. When we did hit the 10s, we actually broke our own record of 11.01, we basically had the record for most of the 2004 season.

Forward to 2005... Running on our 11.01 motor from 2004 all season as we were still waiting for parts for our good engine. Car ran a best of 10.8x with that setup. We were happy, old faithful was running bulletproof and getting quicker and quicker.

BLAH BLAH BLAH, we did this last year ya didn't prove **** this year and guess what it is 2005

Last event 2005 - New Head is finished, head is ripped off old faithful and new head is installed. Car went to dyno, but new header cracked and tuner had to goto a family dinner @ 5pm. We're screwed... Car is tuned to 9000rpm and decision is made to goto event and do our best! Ended up doing some track tuning and raised RPM to 9700rpm with some SOTP tunning. Car ran 104 in the 1/8 during tuning and 125mph in 1/4. Too bad with rolled the beams and got a 1.8x 60ft and 11.1 time slip. We usually hook 1.4xs, we we were happy! Decision was made to head south to NDRA, after Marc (Me), Joe (Altech) and Shant (Kedimoto) break John's ***** to take the car since we were going anyways..

DO you need a tissue, this happened and that happened and then my dog died so the car was slow.


That is just not cool.... John and Joe are not here, did not start this and should not be thrashed. Heck, I did not start this, but am a little upset to see this. Personally I don't think the car was on N20, but I did see Joe pull Bruno hard at around the 330ft mark, only to get smoked in the top. (I was in the truck, going to pickup our car)

I think one of the biggest issues is that bruno missed the call for the semi-finals, we we told to fire up our motor and run, only to be shut down by one of the CSCS twins. Even the track girl was pissed and wanted us to run. We all thought Joe was on a bye run into the finals, then outta no-where Nutek's car is off jack stands and in the lanes (After a whole bunch of waiting) and bangs off a 10.67 with ease, when they had been struggling all day.

He didn't miss any call if you were paying any kind of attention you would have known that he was trying to fix the drive shaft but was told he didn't have time

Now your killing me, I was insulted by your crews comments while we were packing up, especially the older lady. We have always offered our assistance and help to all the All-Motor Guys... I remember when Shant was having clutch issues and John told him to come get our backup Tilton clutch and put it in his car! Or when someone else was having hooking issue and was amazed at our 1.4x 60fts and John just offered up our spring rates which differed a lot from theirs.

You guys were flapping your gums while hiding in your trailer so don't start that you were offended ****, to try and look all nice on this forum.

We will be in Ohio.... I can't wait....

SEE YOU WHEN YOU GET TO THE FINISH LINE, Oh if nothing else happens to go wrong with your car.

Our sanctioning bodies don't test gas or pump motors due to equipment limitations.. What makes you think they would have the correct equipment?

Unfortunatly, guys were cheating in the Street All-Motor class last year and got away with it and bragged about it all winter. This has a bad taste in everyone's mouth now...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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^^^ this person is not on team Nutek so Marc or anyone eles dont take offence to that. they are just stating there oppinon i guess? anyways hopefully in Ohio we can all run better times and realize that noone has cheated.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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nope, i think between the scooby, civic, and crx your gonna have a bit to much work on your hands to be drinking
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