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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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I have put some integra GSR calipers on my eg and need to buy some discs, can anybosy tell me what size i need to buy?

any help much apreciated iv tryed search
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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front or rear? All I know is front is 10.2", I think. Why don't you just tell the person at the counter what car its for

I thought you can't just put the calipers onto the EG mounting brackets? Unless its the Si/Ex/Lx models with ABS
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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any body knwo what that is in mm

the calipers have gone straight on no problems, just need discs now, are they the same size as SIR?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ezza &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any body knwo what that is in mm

the calipers have gone straight on no problems, just need discs now, are they the same size as SIR?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you bolted the G3 Integra calipers straight to a pair of '92-95 CX, VX, DX, LX non-ABS, or Si non-ABS knuckles, you will not be able to fit the proper 10.3" rotors under them. You have to have '92-95 Si w/ABS, LX w/ABS, EX, or '94-01 Integra knuckles to make it work.

10.3" is ~262mm.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Can someone show me exactly what the knuckles are, im assuming they atatch the calipers to the hub.

If so are they just called knuckles or do they have any other names and why have i never heard anybody else havning promlems with 'knuckels'
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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After doing some reasearch iv found that i do have the GSR 'knuckles' iv never heard of them bieng refered to as knucles, must be a US thing, lol
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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after looking round the side of my house i remembered taht the GSR knucles got fucked up, for whatever reason we didnt use them but battered the **** out of them

So i take it that means i do need ABS knuckles?

Or is there anyway of getting it to work without them??
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ezza &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After doing some reasearch iv found that i do have the GSR 'knuckles' iv never heard of them bieng refered to as knucles, must be a US thing, lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok...what do you call them?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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spindle?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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spindle, knuckle, samething, just depends who you are talking to.
if you already have gsr knuckles then you should have no problem with rotors. why dont you just go to the part store, if you say everything is gsr, right?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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i think its solved, my friend and i have engines from the same car, over here we get a civic aerodeck, they come as 1.8 vti's, they are 96+

he isnt using his spindles or whatever so said i can have them, a civic 96+ should have ABS right?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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As far as Honda Civic Suspensions are concerned...

"Spindles" are extended shafts around which a hub/bearing assembly spins. Front-wheel drive Hondas use Spindles for the rear. Note that the part in motion is furthest away from the center of rotation (the "outter" component spins).

"Knuckles" have a hole into which the bearing is seated (the outter diameter of the bearing makes contact with the inner diameter of the knuckle). The hub assembly fits into the inner diameter of the bearing, and the Driveshaft fits into the hub (the Outboard Joint, I think...). Note that the part in motion is closest to the center of rotation (the "inner" component spins).

The front Civic calipers attach to the knuckle (or a mounting plate attached to it, if you have a big brake kit), and the rear Civic calipers attach to the spindle assembly.

Regarding ABS, If your project car has it, I would recommend maintaining it for your swap. Not all 96-00 Civics had ABS, and not all Integras had ABS. Keep in mind that ABS-equipped hubs (front or rear) might not be interchangeable with non-ABS hubs. I know for certain that rear ABS hubs for 92-00 Civics have a larger "Hub Pilot Diameter" (inner diameter of the inner races) than non-ABS hubs...

... I can't find where you told us the location (front/rear) in question. Either way, here's some specs off of Brembo's OEM catalog...

90-96 Integra [All] (front): P/N 25331 | Vented Disc | 262mm oad | 19mm min thickness | 44.6mm oah
90-96 Integra [All] (rear): P/N 25170 | Solid Disc | 239mm oad | 8mm min thickness | 47.6mm oah
97-01 Integra [non-Type-R] (front): P/N 25331 | Vented Disc | 262mm oad | 19mm min thickness | 44.6mm oah
97-01 Integra [non-Type-R] (rear): P/N 25170 | Solid Disc | 239mm oad | 8mm min thickness | 47.6mm oah
97-01 Integra [Type-R] (front): P/N 25464 | Vented Disc | 282mm oad | 21mm min thickness | 47.1mm oah
97-01 Integra [Type-R] (rear): P/N 25550 | Solid Disc | 259.7mm oad | 8mm min thickness | 48.3mm oah

LMK if you need Civic OEM Rotor specs.. I'd love to post a link to the .pdf file, but I can't remember from where it came...

GL either way!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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post the civic oem rotor specs
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">post the civic oem rotor specs </TD></TR></TABLE>

time out, then... update coming...

I know the perfect thread to revive...

(appended)
In consideration of copyright bs, here are some links. What's cool is they also show which models might have had ABS...
http://www.coximport.com/brembomake/HONDA
http://www.coximport.com/brembomake/ACURA
The catalog is updated to 2003, the one I have is for 2004, but things look the same for the data shown (for now).

Another note on ABS... You can cross-reference the models that had ABS by the presence of rear disc brake hub/bearing assemblies (Honda P/N 42200-SR3-A53). There are plenty of Civics with ABS that do not have rear disc brakes, but if they had this part standard, then they had ABS standard too (including Integras). I'll do some digging on ABS Module parts to see what's up as well... but that'll be later...

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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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has anybody got one of those pics with a big arrow pointing to what i need to change? or a pic where arrows can specify what are spindles what are knuckles and what are space time fractuators?

BTW i appreciate the effort JasonGhostz, people like u make ht a nice place
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Here's a diagram of the knuckle assembly for a 95 EX Coupe with/without ABS:
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...8.gif

The ABS Sensor Assembly and associated hardware is the jumbled mess on the right side of the pic. The knuckle is the assembly in the middle, and the Upper Arm is shown on the left. You can use the site above for diagrams, installation instructions, as well as pricing on OEM Honda parts.

Here's a picture of a rear spindle assembly (for rear disc brakes, NON-ABS):
http://img373.imageshack.us/im...s.jpg (detached from trailing arm, with Hub Nut and Washer)
http://img393.imageshack.us/im...j.jpg (right side TA with spindle mounted)

From what I've seen, ABS rear spindles have a hole in the lower lobe (near one of the caliper bracket mounting points) to allow for a sensor or modulator or doohickey. I don't know much about it yet...

Honda doesn't sell spindles individually (for rear drums nor for rear discs). They come as part of the Trailing Arm Assembly. You can read here for more info on spindles:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1349450

Re: space time fractuators, I could be wrong, but I think they're a crucial component of the flux capacitor, giving access to the chronosynclasticinfundibulum. I will check Brembo's OEM catalog again...

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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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The front rotors on my GSR are 10.3"

To do the swap, you need:

- Front knuckle/hub/upright assembly from the GSR or Civic ABS models (sounds like you have those from the 1.8 vti)

- Calipers from said models (sounds like you have those)

- 10.3" discs with pads

- 15/16" master cylinder from a '91 Civic EX 4-door

Then go have fun in the canyons.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 04:12 AM
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thanks again everyone

I have a JDM (not that it matteres where its from ) ITR master cylinder, will this be ok to run the setup?
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