Just recieved confirmation today that MOPAR will not be supporting Sport Compact Drag Racing anymore.

I am open to any and all offers.

Email: allmotoracr@adelphia.net

Thanks to all those who have supported us thru the years.

Another one bites the dust .....

 

That sux.. Good luck to you!

 

Soory to hear the news..... Maybe you will find yourself in a HONDA !

Whatever the case good luck. Hope they are at least going to give you the car for all of your efforts.

 

i hope they will give you the car for all the work YOU put into it.

Sorry to hear this, youll find yourself someway else. Good Luck Scott

 

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I am open to any and all offers.

Email: allmotoracr@adelphia.net

Thanks to all those who have supported us thru the years.

Another one bites the dust ..... </TD></TR></TABLE>



begining next year? or as of right now, leaving you in the cold for Pomona?!

will you be able to keep the car?

 

Sorry to hear that, good luck with whatever comes your way.

 

Sorry to hear that. Good luck to you in the future.

 

Thats cold blooded

 

Any reason why? JC

 

hrmmm, well don't take this the wrong way, not trying to be a dick or start anything but here is how i see it - i personally don't know you, your crew or carlson and crawford but here are some hard numbers to look at:

NHRA Moroso Spring
Carlson - no show
Crawford - #7 qualifier with a 11.8, lost first round
mohler - #4 qualifier with a 10.4, lost in quarterfinals

NHRA Vegas - Spring
Carlson - no show
Crawford - qualifed # 3 our of 3 cars in the class with a 8.8 - won with a 24 second pass after lummus broke before staging
Mohler - #9 qualifier with a 11.1 - lost first round, broke before staging

NHRA Etown - Spring
Carlson - no show
Crawford - qualified #4 out of 4 cars with a 17 second pass, lost first round as a no show
Mohler - qualified #2 with a 10.2, lost first round

NHRA Atco
Carlson - no show
Crawford - no show
Mohler - no show

NHRA Topeka
Carlson - not in attendance cause of mandatory rules to meet for attendence
Crawford - #2 qualifier with a 9.6, lost first round on a holeshot
Mohler - not in attendence

NHRA Colorado
Carlson - qualified #3, lost first round - was a no show
Crawford - qualified #3, lost in the semi's - was a no show
Mohler - qualified #5, won the event, congrats

NHRA Moroso - Fall
Carlson - #1 qualifier - won the event - congrats
Crawford - #3 qualifier - lost in the semi's
Mohler - not sure what qualifier but lost first round as a no show

NHRA Vegas - Fall
Carlson - no show
Crawford - qualified #2, lost in the finals
Mohler - qualified #5, lost in the quarterfinals

NHRA Etown - Fall
Carlson - qualified #4 with a 9.7, lost first round in a great side by side race
Crawford - qualified #7 with a 19.1, lost first round
Mohler - qualified #8, lost in the quarterfinals, breaking on the pass

That is just the NHRA information that i looked at - not sure how the teams faired in any NDRA events that they attended but to me seems like a pretty dismal season - can you really blame Mopar for pulling out?

Just wondering what your side of the take is - not sure what kind of contracts, etc you may have with Mopar but the costs involved are extremely high as we all know and on track performance means a lot i am sure

James Innes

 

I'm going to have to disagree, the costs aren't that high when chrysler will spend any were from $250K-up on a 30 second tv ad that will air one time vs $250K or so to run a competetive season in all motor, chrysler and others don't get it you have to advertise to young people or their market share will continue to fall.

 

We already knew that this was happening but things were still up the air. Our contract is valid thru Pomona. Dodge is disbanding all of their sport compact vehicles. The Caliber is taking the spot of the SRT-4 which is basically a mini SUV. Along the lines of the Aztek? Car has and is already owned by myself. I personally bought that car at the Tate Chrysler dealership here in Frederick in April 98. Probably wont ever get rid of it.

But as I said I am open to drive anything....

 

And as far as the attendance Carlson was rebuilding the car to be more consistent and competetive, Crawford was rebuilding from last years crash, and Mohler had a whole new team to build.

 

I agree with ihaterice

I mean look at Darrell *** always broke or no show Mopar must be tired of spendind and not seeing any results.

heck the independent's get better results
with no budget and with 20 year old technology

look at "frenchy" he is third in the points(NDRA) and as completed almost every event
With an 1987 shelby charger 2.2 liter engine
with no financial support

I think big sponsors should pay by results Ex ay check for every race


Modified by 1fastvnt at 3:26 PM 10/11/2005


Modified by 1fastvnt at 5:19 PM 10/11/2005

 

I read that they stopped making the neon about two weeks ago but thier sales went up 60% after the gas price increases...oh well...

anyways, sorry about the loss

 

The bottom line is that they don't have a car they need to sell to racing fans anymore when they stop selling the neon at the end of the year.

 

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I have to disagree. They (Chrysler) definitely have more to gain with a 30 sec ad than an import drag racing team.

Think about it, advertisement is about product familiarity. Becoming the trends. If I said shipping company, the first thing that people think is UPS. If said hamburger, McDonalds will be the first that comes to mind. This is what Major company are shooting for, they wanted to be the product of choice given the category. This is how they will gain sales and market share. For example, Subaru wanted to be known for AWD technology, therefore Ali is forced to sell their RWD car, because it doesn't reflect their market share.

That being said, there are more people watching 30 sec ad on national syndicate than watching the race at any event at any time.

My $ .02

stan

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Scott Mohler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just recieved confirmation today that MOPAR will not be supporting Sport Compact Drag Racing anymore.

I am open to any and all offers.

Email: allmotoracr@adelphia.net

Thanks to all those who have supported us thru the years.

Another one bites the dust ..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Scott, I am soooo sorry to hear that. If anyone deserves a deal, it's you. If there is ever anything myself, or my company can do for you, please let me know. I don't have $ to give, but parts always help.... Best of luck to you! You'll find something soon.
Vince

p.s. What does this mean for Carlson?

p.s.s. Is the car yours?

 

Thanks for the stats James. I realize our team has had less than a stellar year. The adjustment from our split with Darrell *** Racing has taken longer than expected to overcome. Although we all race for same company we all have our own seperate teams/budgets. Its been a diffucult process for us finding a reliable engine builder that can deal with our needs. The parts for our motors are alot less harder to come by due to fact we either have to make the stuff ourselves or wait all year to get something done.

Although this year has been dismal, Rookie season we were both runner-up in NIRA and IDRC in 01, we won the NOPI championship in 02, NHRA in 03, NHRA runner up in 04.

Thanks

 

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Although this year has been dismal, Rookie season we were both runner-up in NIRA and IDRC in 01, we won the NOPI championship in 02, NHRA in 03, NHRA runner up in 04.

Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

you dont have to give any reasons...bad **** happens to the best of us...it just comes with the territory

 

Best of luck scott. Trust me, i know how it feels in a smaller way. You wont see me at very many events next year either. Best of luck in what ever you do.

art

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Scott Mohler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thanks for the stats James. I realize our team has had less than a stellar year. The adjustment from our split with Darrell *** Racing has taken longer than expected to overcome. Although we all race for same company we all have our own seperate teams/budgets. Its been a diffucult process for us finding a reliable engine builder that can deal with our needs. The parts for our motors are alot less harder to come by due to fact we either have to make the stuff ourselves or wait all year to get something done.

Although this year has been dismal, Rookie season we were both runner-up in NIRA and IDRC in 01, we won the NOPI championship in 02, NHRA in 03, NHRA runner up in 04.

Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

like i said - not trying to be a dick but just seeing what your response would be to that - i see it all from both sides - from running my own car to the actual costs involved to race and sponsorship deals, etc, etc so i can't say for sure but i have a good idea how you feel in your situation and how mopar may feel in theirs - it is tough - this industry is still really tough but we are all getting through it somehow - tell you what - if this ticket i have for the 240 million dollar powerball hits i will send you some money

good luck in whatever you work out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have to disagree. They (Chrysler) definitely have more to gain with a 30 sec ad than an import drag racing team.

Think about it, advertisement is about product familiarity. Becoming the trends. If I said shipping company, the first thing that people think is UPS. If said hamburger, McDonalds will be the first that comes to mind. This is what Major company are shooting for, they wanted to be the product of choice given the category. This is how they will gain sales and market share. For example, Subaru wanted to be known for AWD technology, therefore Ali is forced to sell their RWD car, because it doesn't reflect their market share.

That being said, there are more people watching 30 sec ad on national syndicate than watching the race at any event at any time.

My $ .02

stan</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its not only what they have to gain but what they have to lose, marketing is more than just product familiarity, brand loyalty is an important part and by not going after the youger community they have a lot to lose in the future sales, and consumers don't learn anything from seeing the same ads over and over again and think about it one less comercial = all motor race team, they just abandoned the whole srt-4 and neon community they spent millions supporting over the past few years.

 

Scott as you know you have the full support of the Neon Community at large.

I think a small amount of soul searching will have to be done this offseason. I also take it you plan on making the trip to SEMA to maybe line up some help for next season.

Since NDRA anounced there schdule first, I would lean torwards them and build a car that's flexible to compete in all three series when they come into your area.

Your car is modified beyond what you can really functionally do with it.

If I were you -

1) Park the ACR

2) Build a 1st gen Coupe to the NDRA Comp 4 rule package (minus the ITB)

This will allow you to switch from NDRA Comp 4 to NHRA Street Stock or Battle's Street Performance class with min effort.

Considering how much NHRA was paying to win All Motor, this isn't as big a jump down as you might think.

For one thing your motor program could be a bit milder meaning driveline and engine problems would lessen because instead of trying to run 10 flat, 10.9's will get it done in Comp 4 and you've been down that road before.

I would be cheaper to build a car like this, than say continue with a All Motor program without the budget to really take advantage of the rulebook.

I'd even say building a Turbo4/SFWD car would be more profitable than continuing with All Motor.

Alt Answer -

1) Keep the car, part out all else

2) Switch Brands

With your competition record, I think you could switch to GM, Toyota/Scion or even Mazda without much trouble.

Toyota/Scion nor Mazda have a presents in a production/unit-body type class.

Alt Answer # 2 -

1) Part Out and keep the ACR

2) Build a Rail for NDRA's new class

Building and maintaining a rail is much cheaper than a tube or unitbody car for sure.

Considering you could generate well over 1,000hp from a turbocharged Neon powerplant I think you could be competitive.


Alt Answer # 3 -

Convert the ACR to RWD and run Modified. The firewall and shock towers are still in your car and the rear is already cut away, why not?

Turn your current engine North and South and reconfig your engine program for turbo power.

Again a Neon engine can be built to be competitive with the 6 cylinder cars consider how well Brent Rau has done over the years.

Whatever you do, you'll have the support of Neon owners everywhere for the pioneering work you have done.

Nobody would have believed 10 years ago when the Neon first came out that you could run low 10's at over 130mph with it...

All Motor!

Good Luck, and Stay Strong Playa

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Scott Mohler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We already knew that this was happening but things were still up the air. Our contract is valid thru Pomona. Dodge is disbanding all of their sport compact vehicles. The Caliber is taking the spot of the SRT-4 which is basically a mini SUV. Along the lines of the Aztek? Car has and is already owned by myself. I personally bought that car at the Tate Chrysler dealership here in Frederick in April 98. Probably wont ever get rid of it.

But as I said I am open to drive anything....
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wonder what will happen to Carlson's car, since to my knowledge, he's done most of the work on the car himself.

At least you have your car!! so that you can compete at local events (right?)