Today, about 3 miles from my house, 2 kids were in an accident, and died. They were on a road known for kids trying to set speed records on...apparently the standing record is 92...well....today 2 kids played the game...and lost...hit a tree, and bounced off into a telephone pole...both dead....kinda hits home....please guys, keep safe and keep it on the track.

 

 

 

That sucks

-Dave, who feels bad for them unless they were drunk at the time.

 

doubt they were drunk. they were both about 18, leaving a church meeting.

 

-Dave, who just doesn't feel sorry for people who kill themselves driving drunk but feels sorry for those they hit/kill/maim and for the families involved.

 

i second that guys..please...

 

wow, i've done similar things on the road to my house....just quit though.


if someone visits Honda-Tech once and learns nothing else, let them learn to be safe

 

I 3rd that....I never road race.....take it to the track...or have sex a lot I hear that releases some of that "my **** is bigger than yours" mentality

 

Keep it off the streets

 

(The post below is a public service message dedicated to our good friend Cobra; those who know me can tell you that I only very rarely go into this...)


Your fragmented sentence above features one particular diction-related choice that needs to be addressed now, for the sake of message board uniformity.

Quite simply, the term you are looking for is "street race".

"Road race" is something completely different, i.e. closed circuit courses utilizing complex turn structures and natural topography... like Laguna Seca, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, Road Atlanta, Sebring, VIR, Summit Point, etc... where times are taken and trophies are given, using only dedicated racecars with all the appropriate safety equipment (roll cages, harnesses, fireproof suits, helmets, etc).

This term originated about the time cars started being built 100+ years ago because at the time, there were no such closed circuits, so they simply closed off a section of curvy road and raced there. Historic examples of this include: Le Mans, France; Carrera Panamericana, Mexico; Targa Florio, Italy; Nurburgring, Germany; and many more.

It's simply not the same thing as "street racing", which generally means two immature / untrained jerkoffs in unsafe cars at a stoplight, trying to figure out who has the bigger ******* and/or who is going to get killed first.

In the future, please do not refer to "street racing" as "road racing".

Thanks very much for your understanding,

Jon
who lives less than 20 miles from xjohnx and is curious to hear the details about the accident in question... although he thinks he knows about the road mentioned...

 

 

my bad "street racing"

 

 

What I don't like is when other people rag on me for not having "the *****" to drive fast or race. I rarely ever do it though. I get my kicks when accelerating onto the highway.

 

A few hours ago, I drove down the road in question. Not only were there several news crews on-hand, but there was also a significant memorial at the accident site (along with a group local high school students holding some sort of candlelight vigil). To say the least, it was... a powerful reminder of mortality.

As for the road itself... it is a narrow and very bumpy straightaway with some slight elevation changes, off a major 4-lane connector. It is less than a mile long, connected by a "T" intersection into an average on one end, and a stop sign onto the aforementioned major 4-lane connector at the other end. It is a significantly populated residential road, essentially through a middle class neighborhood. It is NOT a road I would consider even remotely safe to go fast on. (Not that any public road is safe in that regard, but this one was DEFINITELY less safe than a graded, smoothly-paved one with no houses nearby...)

Similarly, an hour ago, I saw the local news report about the accident in question. There was a lot of hoopla about how the two guys (both local highschool seniors, 18 years old) were model citizens with significant ties to various youth religious organizations. Their school's youth pastor even went on camera talking about how much they would be missed. But as for facts, all they mentioned was "an investigation is pending, and speed is being considered as a factor".

They also showed still-photos of the car in question. It was some kind of 4-door sedan, possibly a late-model Camry or similar. It was NOT a sports car and it was definitely NOT riced-out. The impact seemed to be most prevalent in the passenger-side A-pillar (i.e. front fender/door) area. The car was... absolutely destroyed. There is NO way that much damage was done at or near the posted speed limit of 25mph.

This was decidedly NOT any kind of "Fast and Furious" street race. It was a one-car accident in a seemingly normal car, driven by kids who should've known better. But it didn't happen at anywhere near the speed limit, I can tell you that for sure just from seeing pictures of the car on the tv for 3 seconds.

So my question is... why were two well-liked young men from a "good part of town" on the verge of heading off to college soon... going so damn fast in a non-performance car on an unsafe road???

I'm seriously concerned about this...

Jon

 

sad....

 

I am not sure theres an answer for that, every day a lot of people do things to excess. Most days it it not you, sometimes it is, and sometimes you lose.

I am remined of yesterday, mid-day, headed from work to pick up my wife from college (we carpool, kind of). I make a left hand turn onto exit 17, headed west on I90. I didnt think much of it then, but coming the other way, a right turn, a new silver VW beetle was holding up traffic (as the onramp has a turn lane for each and merges a few hundred feet later, which then merges onto I90.

It was a great day and the top was down, I was early, and not really in a hurry to get to her school. Passing exit 15, I am in the regular left lane, doing less than 70 in 6th. The VW catches my eye in the rear view, and its moving OUT in the car pool lane (usually clear in mid day traffic) - and its moving fast enough to make me check and switch lanes, to the middle of three regular lanes.

It blows by and I hear turbo whine (turns out its a new Turbo S VW Beetle), look over and its got a test drive dealer plate, from a dealer right off exit 11. Were passing exit 13 now, and it tail gates a Civic hatch for a sec, clears and passes on the right, back into car pool, back up to speeding.

Im starting to forget the car and start merging right to get off at exit 11 when the driver of the VW decides he wants to get off at 11 as well, clearing 4 lanes of traffic to get in front of the SUV in front of me in less than 8-12 seconds.

Traffic slows down as this is kind of a funny exit (three turns offs over 1/2 mile side road exit kind of deal), the VW turns into the dealership, and I turn onto the next cross street. I look at the clock and decide that I have enough time. I turned into the grocry store parking lot, crossed it and parked in front of the VW dealer. Got out of the car, passed the carload of folks (sales guy + 2 or 3) who were getting out and looking at the motor, smiling and laughing, walked in and asked for the most senior person on site. When she asked me what she could do for me, the sales guy had walked into the showroom looking for something, so I asked the lady if that gentleman worked there. When she confirmed that he did, I asked what the policy on speeding on test drives was. She started to looked concerned, and I relayed the above story to her. She thanked me, and I got back in the car to pick up my wife. As I drove away, I heard her on the intercom, calling the sales guy in to her office.

I'm I an *******? probably.
Do I give a rats *** what a speeing VW thinks? probably not.
This is just the best example of one of those times someone took a chance and won.
Maybe next time they wont.

Demian



[Modified by killingtime, 10:28 PM 3/5/2002]

 

IT is a shame that the death rate for street racing is rising but I can only blame one thing besides the stupidity of the drivers involved (The Fast @ the Fuc@ing Stupid)

Keep it off the streets for your sake and those around you.

 

it takes more ***** to control youself...keep it on the track..and for death of the two kids, from us and honda-tech who experience road racing...."racing's racing" and sometimes you lose......

 

very sad.....

 

its funny when people who street say things like "its the dumb ones who keep dying... how ironic.

you are the moron.. and the guy next to you just got his drivers permit and stole his brothers riced out car..

now whose safe?

street racing ****, geigh