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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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i'm replacing my cv boot and can't get the stop pin to seat. i had to stretch it out a little to get it in, and now i can't get it to go back to its original size. is there some kind of trick to doing this?


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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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umm what is a stop pin?

You're not using those split boot thingies are ya? Those things are crap

You would be better off just replacing the whole axle, or taking the axle apart and replacing the boot (if the joint is still good, but it's very mess and time consuming, easier to just replace the whole axle).
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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i did take the axle apart; that's why i'm having this problem.

the stop pin is the pin on the axle that goes in the little groove at the end, where the shaft goes into the joint. you have to push the joint over the stop pin to get it on. since mine won't go into the groove correctly, i can't get the joint on.

this is really pissing me off; i'm about to go just buy new axles from shucks or something . i really need my car.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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hasn't anybody changed their cv boots before?
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Okay in the Helms manual it shows assembling the inner joint, and it shows a stopper ring that goes on the shaft, and then the spider (w/ the 3 rollers), then a circlip, then the inboard joint housing. You aren't supposed to push the spider over anything as you slip it onto the shaft. The circlip, stopper ring, and spider should all be installed separately.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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sorry, i forgot to say that it's the outer ones. i just can't get the stop pin to into the seat far enough to push the joint over. when i got the pin, it was just about the size it needed to be once its in the seat. however, i had to stretch it out a bit to get it over the teeth. now that its stretched out, i can't get the joint over it. i was just wondering if someone had a tip or trick on how to get the joint over the pin and onto the axles itself.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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You took the outer joints apart? I have always had the understanding that the outer joints were not rebuildable, only the inner joints. The Helms doesn't even list a procedure for replacing the outboard joint.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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why are they not rebuildable? i bought the rebuild kit from acura. i just can't get the damn pin, that's all. and until i do, i can't drive my fucken car.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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look at this pic here



I assume #29 is what you're having trouble with? It looks like you put that on and then slip the joint onto the shaft. Otherwise I don't know how it goes on.

I don't know how much help you're going to get here. Most people just replace the whole axle. Did you buy that whole #25 set (joint, boot, and outer ring)? Damn that costs like $180 just for that.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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I'm not all that familiar with the Integra driveaxle, but it should be somewhat the same as other Hondas.

Are you referring to the stop-ring? Can you get another stop-ring or use the old one. Use some of the cv joint grease, and try sliding it in at an angle.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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no, i bought the cv boot replacement kit. it included 26, 28, 9, 29, 20, and the tube of grease. just your basic cv boot kit that you can buy at any auto parts store.

yes, again, i am referring to the stop-ring/pin. yes, the kit did include a new one. it's the new one that i am having trouble with. i should've just kept the old one on, but i didn't. i thought it would be a good idea to change it, since the kit included a new one anyway. and yes, that is what im having trouble with.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Well that's odd because usually when replacing the outer joint boot, you have to remove the inner joint and everything and then slide the outer joint off over the end of the axle shaft where the inner joint was. At least that's how the Helms manual says to do it. It never mentions removing the outer joint from the shaft.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Default Re: cv boot replacment- can't get stop pin to seat (civicdxtyper)

Take the ring back off, squeeze it back down to normal size, and reinstall it. Just be careful not to stretch it out too much while putting it on. If you still have problems, insert the tip of axle into the CV joint until the ring just touches the joint. Then use a screwdriver or similar object to push inward on the ring while pushing the axle into the joint. Kind of hard to explain without pics, but I don't have any.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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PatrickGSR94: i don't see why you'd want to take off the inner boot if changing the outer one. that doesn't seem too logical.

nitrofish420: well, i don't think i stretched the pin all that much; i barely managed to slip it on. i tried doing what you suggested, but the once i pushed down on one side of the pin, it'd just pop out on another. it might work if i had another person helping me with this.

any other suggestions?
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Well the Helms manual shows pulling everything off the inner joint end (inner joint first, then inner boot, harmonic balancer, then outer boot) because according to the Helms, the outer joint is not supposed to come off. The Haynes manual also says that the outer joint cannot be removed or disassembled. Did you read somewhere how to get yours off or did you just figure out how it came off?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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i just figured it out. why would you want to take the inner boot off in order to take the outer one off? it came off just fine, i'm just having trouble with the pin.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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how much for the kit?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC_RaceR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much for the kit?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i paid $20/side with a discount from the dealer.

anyway, i fucken finally got it. tried it again today and it slipped right in. i was getting ready to throw those axles away and just buy remanufactured ones. what a fucken waste of time.

i still don't see why you would take out the inner boots first? anyone care to explain? just curious.
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