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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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ok.. i know came cross a problem with the wire issue with my alternator
i checked the engine harness plugs it tells me USDM 4 wires/CDM 3 wires
so now this is what i need to know
the alternator i have is the 3 wires design and the plugs i have has 4 wires..

USDM
1. Blk/YEL
2. WHT/GRN
3. WHT/BLU
4. WHT/RED

CDM
1. WHT/RED
2. BLK/YEL
3. WHT/BLU

so basically what i did was i wired them up to the CDM spec and left WHT/GRN alone on the side...
now car starts fine.. it charges the battery as well but my dash lite for the battery stays on, how do i kill it?
i found out that the WHT/GRN i left is ALTC(Alternator control) which sends alternator control signal out... if i switch it from WHT/BLU to WHT/GRN would the problem be fixed? i do not want to mess with my wires even i already did.. but i am hoping someone who knows this can help me out

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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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someone plz help~~~
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Some one correct me if I am wrong. The USDM integra alternator uses 4 phases (diode) to provide current/voltage. It is more durable and the supplied current is cleaner than the typical 3 phases alternator. If you use only a 3 phase, it will work but since the last phase is not connected, it is throwing an error.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PandaBear &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some one correct me if I am wrong. The USDM integra alternator uses 4 phases (diode) to provide current/voltage. It is more durable and the supplied current is cleaner than the typical 3 phases alternator. If you use only a 3 phase, it will work but since the last phase is not connected, it is throwing an error.
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i have no idea but for the fact someone has done it before but i couldn't find the post now one thing it says on my troubleshooting plug C sheet it shows WHT/GRN is Alternaotr control which sends the control signal and thats the one i left it behind.. i am just wondering if i switch it with the WHT/BLUE which i have it connected now.. would this solve my problem? i do not have the wiring diagram so i have no idea what each wire does
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Well according to my diagrams, the white/green wire is only on 94-95 cars, and it goes to the ECU. The white/blue wire goes to both the integrated control unit, the ABS control unit, and also the charging system dashboard light and the underhood fusebox. I can tell you for sure that you cannot disconnect the white/blue wire and not have problems.

I would suggest getting the correct alternator for the car and not trying to rig something up and hoping it works.

*edit* are you saying the car's harness has 3 wires and the alternator has 4 wires, or does the car have 4 wires and the alternator have 3 wires?
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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alright... thanks a lot pat
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
*edit* are you saying the car's harness has 3 wires and the alternator has 4 wires, or does the car have 4 wires and the alternator have 3 wires?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Car 4 wires.. alternator 3 wires
Yeah and for the fact that is already working.. thats why i am just wondering if i swap the WHT/BLU to WHT/GRN would it clear my dashboard battery light?
i checked the Volt and everything.. car is charging fine.. i even disconnected the battery while the car is running and alternator seems to operates fine.. thats why i would like to know if someone can give me an exact answer..
thanks again
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well according to my diagrams, the white/green wire is only on 94-95 cars, and it goes to the ECU. The white/blue wire goes to both the integrated control unit, the ABS control unit, and also the charging system dashboard light and the underhood fusebox. I can tell you for sure that you cannot disconnect the white/blue wire and not have problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would it be possible if you have the 2000 wiring diagram
99ITR intalled in 00' LS bay
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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99? Did Canada get the ITR in 99?

My wiring diagram says that 96-up doesn't even have a white/green wire.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">99? Did Canada get the ITR in 99?

My wiring diagram says that 96-up doesn't even have a white/green wire.</TD></TR></TABLE>
99 ITR didn't make it in the states but it sure did in Canada
and for some reason the 99 wiring is the same spec as USDM one's..
i am not even sure why there is a CDM & USDM for this stupid plug..
anyways...

WHT/GRN = sends alternator control signal
WHT/BLU= ----??? what does it do actually? no one knows?
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