i was looking on full-race's website and the pics they have for the crx traction bar look different then when they first came out. all seem to be good improvements (added tow hooks) and the radius rods are a different color (like a grey color), but the only thing that concerns me is that they seem to have changed the method of attachment to the LCA. they dont use that "Y" bracket anymore and seem to be using a different bracket, which to me looks pretty weak. anyone know whats up with this? cause i want the full race bars, but i want the old design (maybe with tow hooks ).

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Yes they did change them. They are not gold bars anymore, they are kind of a titanium silver. Also the part where they attach to the LCA is different. I'm not really sure why They made the changes, but I'm sure its for the better

Although mine don't have toe hooks...

 

aww, no more 24karet gold bling??!!

 

im not really concerned about the color of the rods, but the LCA attachment bracket does bother a bit. the old bracket was so rock solid looking, but the this new one just looks weak. hopefully someone from full-race sees this thread so we can have some explaination. id also like to get a pic of the LCA bracket installed on the LCA, maybe i have the wrong idea about how it bolts to the LCA

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRCRXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not really concerned about the color of the rods, but the LCA attachment bracket does bother a bit. the old bracket was so rock solid looking, but the this new one just looks weak. hopefully someone from full-race sees this thread so we can have some explaination. id also like to get a pic of the LCA bracket installed on the LCA, maybe i have the wrong idea about how it bolts to the LCA</TD></TR></TABLE>

That would be great. I'm not really sure how they intended the bracket to be installed.

 

How the new radius rods attach to the LCA?

 

you can see the pic of the bracket i posted in the first post....

 

ive got the new traction bars on my crx. haven't got to drive the car around however. if you look on the fullrace website you can get detailed instructions on how to install them, where you can also see how the radius rods attach to the lca.

 

The new clevice is MUCH better than the last one. They had problems with the old one breaking. The new one will NEVER break.



Here's a pic I snapped when installing it. There's also instructions on there webpage.

 

i see. i did have the wrong idea about hoe it installed good stuff

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new clevice is MUCH better than the last one. They had problems with the old one breaking. The new one will NEVER break.



Here's a pic I snapped when installing it. There's also instructions on there webpage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awsome, thanks a lot!!! Yeah, I too had the completely wrong idea of how they attached.

 

That's awesome... long time since I've seen any innovation in our products!

 

i can only wish to have some of those

 

the only problem i see with that design is the axle hitting it. On my stock car, the bolt that goes right below the axle has hit the axle. Since it is now higher, its a greater chance that the axle will hit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UltimX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only problem i see with that design is the axle hitting it. On my stock car, the bolt that goes right below the axle has hit the axle. Since it is now higher, its a greater chance that the axle will hit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most people won't have that problem because they are either at stock ride height, or lowered.

 

Traction bars are for drag cars, not rally cars

I would assume that it would not only help prevent breakage, but the longer rod wouldn't change the suspention geometry as much. My guess is that for the money they want, they'd send you the old types. I wouldn't expect them to warranty a part they've deem 'inferior' though.

 

after seeing how these attach id gladly get the new ones

 

for an additional amount they would add a d-series tranny bracket mounting point, but they don't offer it any more either

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Heron of Alexandria &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for an additional amount they would add a d-series tranny bracket mounting point, but they don't offer it any more either </TD></TR></TABLE>

meh; you don't need it. I just run a poly back mount on my EF, and its perfectly fine.

 

lowered cars would affect it more. my car is lowered and i already see signs of axle problems.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

meh; you don't need it. I just run a poly back mount on my EF, and its perfectly fine. </TD></TR></TABLE>You are able to run the full-race traction bar on your car with a d-series without needing the front mount? I have energy suspension motor mount inserts, but the engine movement is about right where I want it. I'd hate to see how it would act with only one strengthened mount with the front one gone.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UltimX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only problem i see with that design is the axle hitting it. On my stock car, the bolt that goes right below the axle has hit the axle. Since it is now higher, its a greater chance that the axle will hit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How low are you? and why? Man, I can't see how you've hit it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Traction bars are for drag cars, not rally cars

I would assume that it would not only help prevent breakage, but the longer rod wouldn't change the suspention geometry as much. My guess is that for the money they want, they'd send you the old types. I wouldn't expect them to warranty a part they've deem 'inferior' though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I'm not mistaken I think full-race will send you the new ones in exchange for your old ones. And I think the bars are the same length but I don't have the an older version to verify.

 

the part you are speaking of is our new ef clevice (sp). this part is not "weak" in any way, shape or form. compared to the old design you are able to notice where we improved upon the parts strength and its use of the spherical joint. We are always looking to improve our products and offer the best parts $$$ can buy!

for all who obtained a set of our traction bars and are currently running our old clevice please contact full-race @ 602-437-2101. have your contact/shipping info ready so we can ship you out our new kit free of charge.

- bars ARE the same length
- silver IS the new gold

x: there should be no clearence issues between the axle and the bolt head. if you are having issues with the new design just give us a call.



Modified by turbotommy at 8:38 AM 10/7/2005