I recently changed out the tranny in my 95 civic dx...I put a d16z6 tranny in it...I used 10w-40 for the tranny...Is this okay? or should I have used 10w-30? Will this hurt anything, using a thicker oil?

 

I forget how to read the oil numbers...but since they're both 10w I *think* it'll be ok. I know for my civic you're supposed to use 5w-30 in hot climates and 10w-30 in colder ones. Or something...should be ok.

 

jorsher, he's asking for his tranny, not motor


i wouldn't put engine oil in tranny even though it would probably work for a while... but you gotta change it as often as you change your motor oil or ~every 3K miles with your average oil

if it were me, i'd use a gm synchromesh friction modified or a variant type of oil

 

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i think your thinking about the engine?

but yea i just checked my car manual and it says either 10w30 or 40 but personally ive always used honda mtf or synchromesh

 

Eh I know he's talking about for a tranny... but I'm saying at the temperatures the tranny will be at the thickness probably won't matter too much.

If it were me btw, I'd use OEM MTF...

 

Honda MTF

 

Thanks for the info I will probably end up putting Honda Specific MTF in : Thanks Again:

 

I actually reccomend GM Synchromesh Friction Modified

It is great and preserves your transmission a little better. It comes in a square bottle (if you get the one with a round bottle you just grabbed the wrong one) and costs about 11 bux a quart. You will need about three of them but the price of the fluid is well worth it.

 

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DirtySol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I actually reccomend GM Synchromesh Friction Modified

It is great and preserves your transmission a little better. It comes in a square bottle (if you get the one with a round bottle you just grabbed the wrong one) and costs about 11 bux a quart. You will need about three of them but the price of the fluid is well worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually you should need about 4... Fill is 3.75 quarts...

Ive actually been running the Penzoil syncromesh with great results... You can purchase it just about anywhere that carries penzoil products, and it is virtually the same as the GM stuff for alot less (it usually runs about $6-7 a quart)

 

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actually you should need about 4... Fill is 3.75 quarts...

Ive actually been running the Penzoil syncromesh with great results... You can purchase it just about anywhere that carries penzoil products, and it is virtually the same as the GM stuff for alot less (it usually runs about $6-7 a quart)</TD></TR></TABLE>

what transmission are you filling.....a D-series trans holds 1.9 qts.
and an B-series holds 2.3 qts

The Penzoil stuff is equivalent to the GM Synchromesh regular crap. It is in no way equivalent to the FM formula. The only other company licensed to sell the FM formula is AC Delco which can be found at NAPA. Thank you and have a nice day

 

I said that you will need around three of them because chances are, if you have never changed the trans fluid before, you arte likely to spill some

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DirtySol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what transmission are you filling.....a D-series trans holds 1.9 qts.
and an B-series holds 2.3 qts

The Penzoil stuff is equivalent to the GM Synchromesh regular crap. It is in no way equivalent to the FM formula. The only other company licensed to sell the FM formula is AC Delco which can be found at NAPA. Thank you and have a nice day </TD></TR></TABLE>


First and formost I would like to say that you are a ***, and being an internet hardass went out in like the seventh grade..
Now, with that being said, I will say that I beg to differ with your comment. The Penzoil syncromesh is the generic equivalent to the GM syncromesh with friction modifier. I know this because a friend of mine that is the service dept. asst. manager at a local GM dealer told me that they use the penzoil stuff when they dont have the real stuff on hand.. Around here its a big fad with honda owners to buy the FM syncromesh, so its hard for them to keep it on hand.. He also let me in on a little info, that GM may be buying into Penzoil, so Penzoil would be the main manufacture of the "OEM" syncromesh...
Also, I would like to see a factory manual that says the capacity of a bseries hydraulic transmission is 2.3 quarts... With my freshly rebuilt tranny, it took 3.75 quarts to fill... This is by taking out the fill plug, and then filling from the VSS until fluid started leaking out the fill hole... Then both were plugged, and I was on my way... Maybe I am wrong, but seems to me every time I have done a transmission it has been about the same...
As previously stated, I may be wrong, but Im mature enough to admit that, unlike a person like yourself who has a strong superiority complex, as well as a severe lack of maturity, and respect for that matter... Thanks for trying to be a smart ***, and please play again...

 

DirtySol, the photo you posted is still of the regular Synchromesh. The Friction Modified bottle says "Friction Modified" on it, and the GM part number is 12377916 (AC Delco #10-4014).

BoostedCivicSedan, you're wrong. The regular Pennzoil Synchromesh is the equivalent of the regular GM Synchromesh, not the Friction Modified. The capacity of a B-series hydraulic-clutch manual transmission is 2.3 quarts for an oil change, and 2.4 quarts for assembly - as specified by the Helm, Inc. '94-01 Acura Integra factory service manual. If you used more than that, you overfilled the transmission. The name calling and swearing is rather childish as well; how hypocritical of you to comment on the maturity of someone else . . .

 

I will reccomend Honda MTF over a motor oil any day.
ALSO, I personally DO run Pennzoil Synchromesh on my car, rather than Honda MTF. It felt a little smoother on my D series tranny, and the grind on the 1-2 shift seemed to dissappear (I don't shift that fast/hard anymore though. To fill your tranny, you use the bolt on the side and when it starts to overflow, your done. Shouldn't have to measure ot anything, its pretty simple, you only access 2 bolts to do a tranny flush.

P.S. No need for name calling.

 

Pennzoil and GM synchromesh is the same **** right?

I used Pennzoil and now I swear by that stuff. I have used Honda MTF and I hated it.

 

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honda MTF.
i used 10w30 in the beater though. worked fine. but the b-sir gets honda MTF.

 

no question, nothing to talk about. pennzoil syncromesh. the most amazing thing that ive even put into any of my cars. get it from autozone, its 6 bucks/quart.

Brett

 

you are correct about the pic, it is the older sm bottle picturted.....teh FM looks identical but it has Friction mod. printed on the label

here is the new one



here is the AC Delco counterpart to the basic synchromesh



here is the Penzoil synchromesh



here is the AC Delco counterpart of the FM

 

is putting lucas oil into the transmission any good?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxhatch93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is putting lucas oil into the transmission any good?</TD></TR></TABLE>I use it with Honda MTF and shifting feels a little more fluid.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxhatch93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is putting lucas oil into the transmission any good?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't use that in your transmission.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't use that in your transmission.</TD></TR></TABLE>Just curious, why do you say that? Since it is pure petroleum, it can safely blend with all other automotive lubricants, even synthetics, ATF and mineral oil.

 

Current fluids are so good, additives really arent noticalbly better.
Just trust Targa250R, hes probably one of the smartest guys on honda-tech. He's never been wrong before.