Ok, I'm not too good with matching subs with amps/how to set them up/picking the best. I'm on a tight budget, just to let everyonek now before I begin. Now I say this dual 12" subs with enclosure, that I'm interested it. The specs are:

Product Features
Two 12" subwoofers in a bandpass box

1,100 watts peak handling capacity; 600 watts RMS

Injection-molded polypropylene woofer cone with neodymium poly-treated foam surround

Low-Q optimized dual drivers

4-port (4"), dual-chamber bandpass design

Dual illumiNITE technology creates an iridescent blue glow

Plexi subwoofer viewing window, mirrored chamber and carpeted enclosure

No crossovers needed for simplified installation; easy add-on for existing systems

Frequency response: 24 - 180Hz

Sensitivity: 89dB

Impedance: 4 ohms


Product Details
Warranty Terms - Parts 1 year limited

Warranty Terms - Labour 1 year limited

Product Height 15"

Product Width 28"

Product Weight 48 lbs.

Product Length 18"

Woofer Size 12"

Woofer Material Injection-molded polypropylene with brushed metallic surface

Magnet Size 38 oz.

Magnet Type Neodymium

Continuous Power Handling 600W

Peak Power Handling 1,100W

Impedance 4 ohms

Connection Type Terminal cup

Number of Voice Coils Single

Efficiency 89dB

Frame Material Stamped metal

Surround Material Poly-treated foam

Recommended Installation Type Rear trunk, hatchback


Now, first I would like to know if thats a good sub setup. Second, I would like to know what kind of amp would be able to power it perfectly/almost perfectly. I know you have to match the Watts, but with all the ohms and coils and ports and such. I really don't know. I've checked into articles and such and searched, but I still don't understand too much and I would like others to help me, who are good at this stuff or have a smiliar setup, etc. I would greatly appreciate this. Thanks.

 

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Do you have a link for the sub box?
I am no fan of prebuilt sub box's, they tend to be real cheap, [construction wise] more so if they sell for cheap, that said, you are better off, [most of the time] if the box comes loaded, [the box "matches" the subs]. I am also not a fan of "bling" the "illumiNite technology" does nothing for bass, and is just something else to go wrong, but can't hurt, [in most cases].
Without knowing what brand the speakers are, it would be hard to tell if the are any good or not, but again price will be an indication, for good 12" subs in a good band pass box, you could expect to pay $300-$500 and real good stuff you can pay that for just the speakers and top of the line stuff you can't even get one speaker for that.
The one good thing I see is it comes with a 1 year parts and labour warranty, but it is limited, what I would like to know is, limited to what? 94

 

Link:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...76115

 

Well Dual is a brand name, I remember them as a turn table and home audio manufacturer, they covered everything from entry level and up, and apparently have now gotten into car audio, [18 mo. according to one site ] http://www.hifisoundconnection...num/2 I have tried to find out more about the speakers they use, but I can't even find Dual Audios site, so no other info other then what you already have.
I have never seen or heard them, [band pass box] so I can't tell you if they are any good or not, however if you do end up getting, [what I believe to be an entry level system] then get it at the Best Buy store and have them install it, refer to disclaimer just beneath product details
As for what amp to use, without spec's on the speakers themselves I would have to rely on the spec's for the box and get a 600W RMS mono block sub amp. 94

 

May I ask, curious, now why would it be mono channel, and not like 2-channel? Wouldn't mono only put out 600 and 2-channel 1200? or am I wrong?

 

No no, it's just that sub bass is normally run in mono, one channel, [mixed mono] as there is little or no separation at sub bass frequencies and always when the subs share the same air space, [front/back or both] most dedicated sub amps are mono although most 2 ch. amps can be bridged into a 1ch. or mono amp.
As the recommended RMS power is 600W I would look for an amp that makes 600W RMS into 4 ohms, it makes no diff. if it's a mono amp or a bridged 2ch. amp, a dedicated sub amp will have some advantages, [depending on the manufacturer] 94

 

BANDPASS BOXS SOUND MUDDE, GO FOR A SEALED OR PORTED BOX.
THEY WILL BE A LITTLE MORE FORGIVING.
IF YOU NEED ANYTHING LET ME KNOW, I WORK FOR A CAR AUDIO DIZZ.

 

Do you think those Subs are any good? Are they loud? I want something really loud for a good price, also preferably 2 enclosed subs.

 

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What about something like this:

http://www.hifisoundconnection...30046

or is it one of those that will turn to crap shortly?

OR are one of these better:

http://www.hifisoundconnection...30046

http://www.hifisoundconnection...30046


I REALLY appreciate the help a lot. Thanks.

 

Bandpass boxes are loud, but they sound really terrible (with very rare exceptions). So if you only care for how loud your bass is then go for a bandpass enclosure, otherwise a sealed box is what I would recommend. Sealed enclosures are quite easy and cheap (about $30 prolly) to build too. Let us know if you need any help with that.
If I were you I’d go for a single 12 inch of a better make like Infinity, Alpine etc. Many of them are capable of producing some serious sound pressure levels and cost less then $100

 

So the MTX i pointed out in my last post would be good? I mean I want to blow cars away at my school, without sacrificing a lot of money and sound quality? or is that not available?

Again Thanks.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INxGSRxTEG18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the MTX i pointed out in my last post would be good? I mean I want to blow cars away at my school, without sacrificing a lot of money and sound quality? or is that not available?

Again Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Just my .02- Bumping your system in parking lots is usually a great way to draw attention to your car, which usually makes it a target.

Plus if you are going to throw a ton of bass into your car, I'd assume you would need some sound deadening, or it's going to sound like crap

 

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i'm retarded...i don't understand much of what you want with this thread.

1. what kind of subs are you using?

2. what exactly are you looking to buy, a box or an amp?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INxGSRxTEG18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Link:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...76115 </TD></TR></TABLE>

if this is the set up you were planning on using, then don't. it'll sound like ****. this is the ONE and ONLY instance i'd have to say that even audiobahn is better.

 

I'm an installer at Best Buy, and to be honest, that Dual box isn't terrible for the price. When matched to the Dual amp, it sounds pretty decent. Just be sure to buy the replacement plan for $20, because when (not if) it blows, you'll be able to get a new one...

 

I have no subs now and I want an enclosed pair of subs. At first I asked about the Duals and then kinda hearing that they won't last too long or will be shitty, so I looked again, and found two sets that I'm interested in. Now I'm asking which of the two are better. I want something that is very loud, but will have good sound quality. I also don't want to spend more then about $500 for subs and amp. Now once I get a set of subs that are good, then I might need help picking out the amp, but i'm not sure, I just want to deal with the subs first. Again, I'm very thankful for everyones help.

 

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I agree with B18C_EJ8.....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm an installer at Best Buy, and to be honest, that Dual box isn't terrible for the price. When matched to the Dual amp, it sounds pretty decent. Just be sure to buy the replacement plan for $20, because when (not if) it blows, you'll be able to get a new one...</TD></TR></TABLE> for the price it's as good a deal as you are going to get, I also agree about the "replacement plan" but that would apply to anything you end up with, if available get it, because as B19C_EJ8 said, "when (not if) it blows" it will be replaced.
With your last description of what you are looking for........
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INxGSRxTEG18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want something that is very loud, but will have good sound quality. I also don't want to spend more then about $500 for subs and amp. </TD></TR></TABLE> "very loud" "good sound quality" "more then about $500", the three really don't go together, you may be able to be loud or you may be able to have good SQ, but if you want both, its going to cost you.
Now very loud is a relative term. What does it mean to you? To me very loud is the point that I can't hold a conversation with someone next to me in the car, on the other hand, to my installer trainee, very loud is ground pounding, metal shaking, crap falling off the car kind of loud, his favorite saying is "if it doesn't hurt, it's not loud enough", now he has spent, [excluding labour] well over $2000 on sub bass alone in his VW GTI, [and that is wholesale and deal pricing from our reps] his car is very loud and sub bass response is very clean and tight, [when he wants it to be].
From the links you posted the MTX http://www.hifisoundconnection...30046 are the ones I would go with, however that does not leave you much to get an amp that will make 450W RMS into a 4 ohm load 94

 

Ok. I want it loud where you can't hold a convo with the person next to you. Now I see that the MTX's I picked out are what you would choose out of my picking, does that qualify as the loud I want? If so could you please pick an amp out that would fix good with it. And now I understand, I'm going to have to sacrifice more money for both.

Thanks. You're a help.

 

crap falling off the car...
Just imagined
Oh, those SPL people are funny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INxGSRxTEG18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. I want it loud where you can't hold a convo with the person next to you. Now I see that the MTX's I picked out are what you would choose out of my picking, does that qualify as the loud I want? If so could you please pick an amp out that would fix good with it. And now I understand, I'm going to have to sacrifice more money for both.

Thanks. You're a help.</TD></TR></TABLE> This would work http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/pr...1.cfm ... or you could get away with this one http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/pr...1.cfm ... but you said loud, and loud, you want WATTS, the sub box is rated at 450W continues, a 500W RMS into 4 ohm would work great, [ you will have to back off on the gain on the amp a little] but IMO it's better to be over powered then under powered, and you did say LOUD.
Again loud is a relative term, but if that box is bolted solidly to the car and with the first amp I linked you to, and amp is installed/wired properly, and "set up" properly, it will be loud 94