Well, if Sport Compact racing dies, like it looks like it is going to, at least the RWD guys might have a place to go... Copied this from their site.. IHRA CONSIDERING ALLOWING SPORT COMPACTS IN PRO STOCK

The International Hot Rod Association is giving serious thought to making Sport Compact style cars legal for Pro Stock competition. At the upcoming event at Rockingham Summit Racing Equipment team racer Matt Hartford (shown) will be making laps I in his "Sport Compact" style Chevy Cobalt.
A call to Skooter Peaco at IHRA confirmed that the sanctioning body is seriously looking at the idea, but has made absolutely no decisions, tentative rules or anything else concerning the potential adding of turbocharged, fuel injected, 4 and 6 cylinder powered Sport Compacts to IHRA's traditional mountain-motored Pro Stock class. That scream you hear is coming from engine builders Jon Kaase and Sonny Leonard, who currently built most of the IHRA mountain motored cars. [9-30-2005]

 

I think it should be left to all motor cars. People compare them to pro stock because they run close times but consider they are doing it all motor and sport compacts are using on two less cly but over 40lbs of boost. It won't be long before the compacts are running faster than pro stock then no more close drivers races we always watch in pro stock.

 

i guess then the scrantons and paisley can bring their v-8's back. The Blast Lexus will also have a place to run as well. I think they can make some good power all motor.....it would be interesting to see. IM glad IHRA is atleast thinking about it..

 

You can run faster all you want ONCE, but you have to consistently go down the track! Take a look at the fields in IHRA Pro Stock. 20+ cars plus 1-16 are within hundredths. Many times eliminations are decided at the line, ProRWD can be won at the pits. I love what our ProRWD can do, but they aren't always the most consistent. You need to first finish, before you can finish first, or whatever that saying goes.

 

In the last couple of years, the only IHRA anything I've seen was from very bad TV coverage of races in Canada.
Didn't even know they still raced in the states.

 

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Too funny I know what your talking about, they IHRA event at Toronto Motorsports park is off the hook though, huge fan attendance and a top notch track and surface!! Alot of the IHRA guys love running the track as they get Personal bests all the time.

 

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So True, Half these guys can't back up their runs, we have to be realistic to be in any profesional series you have to be "consistent" and no Import class is. Mountain Motors run 6.40, who in Pro RWD has run this number once, yet can do it all day long, if they let Pro RWD in IHRA I don't see anyone qualifieng. Here is the qualifying list of the last IHRA Race with the list of the NHRA Sport Compact English town qualifying pluged in

Psn Driver Vehicle ET Speed

1. Frank Gugliotta Thodos Motorsports Escort 6.403 218.51
2. Steve Spiess Spiess Construction Cobalt 6.406 216.97
3. Robert Patrick Purvis Cobra 6.407 217.81
4. Brian Gahm Gahm's Car-Truck Parts Mustang 6.433 215.93
5. Jerry Haas Dean's Casing Service Cavalier 6.436 215.82
6. John Nobile Nobile Trucking ZX2 6.438 215.27
7. Tony Gillig ASSC Racing Mustang 6.438 215.17
8. Daniel Seamon Citgo Escort 6.453 216.24
9. Rick Jones Quarter Max Cobalt 6.455 215.72
10. Doug Kirk Kirk Racing Mustang 6.460 216.79
11. Bert Jackson E-Love Racing Cavalier 6.461 216.27
12. Elijah Morton Escort 6.467 214.96
13. Pete Berner Performance Mechanical Mustang 6.468 214.04
14. Ed Machacek Cavalier 6.470 215.44
15. John Konigshofer Cougar 6.475 215.58
16. Larry O'Brien Bear's Performance Stratus 6.485 213.54
--------- Not Qualified ---------
17. Art Hodges Strange Engineering Stratus 6.509 212.36
18. Tommy Franklin Franklin Electric Cavalier 6.511 214.42
19. John Montecalvo Citgo Cobalt 6.515 213.84
20. Frank Snellings FAS Muffler & Tire Cougar 6.517 213.70
21. John Bartunek Pearl River Automotive Cobalt 6.527 209.85
22. Ron Miller Paone Brothers Cavalier 6.535 210.44
<U>1. Stephan Papadakis AEM '03 Civic 6.545@ 213.10&</U>
23. Michael Bruno Bruno's Truck Painting Cavalie 6.609 209.85
<U>2. Matt Hartford Summit Racing '04 Cavalier 6.674 208.84</U>
<U>3. Brad Personett Titan Mail Order '05Scion 6.684 214.04</U>
24. Wally Stroupe Stroupe Race Cars Grand Am 6.698 209.39
<U>4. Ed Marx '05 Celica 6.778 207.08
5. Matt Scranton Garrett - Ride Revolution '04 6.809 204.82
6. Ara Arslanian Bullish Racing '02Solara 6.926 197.10</U>
25. Chuck DeMory Holbrook Engines Escort 7.059 152.87
<U>7. Vinny Ten '05 350Z 7.062 191.02
8. Manny Cruz '87 RX7 8.169 144.12
9. Abel Ibarra '04 RX-8 8.335 198.09
10. Jose LeDuc '75 RX-3 8.629 119.60
11. Carlos Montano '97 MX6 8.697 153.61</U>

 

Right off the top you can take Carlos Mantano, and Jose LeDuc out, cuz they aren't ever going to run that fast. Until Manny gets teh Cougar running again, that Nissan is just something to practice reaction times in. Now some of the Titan Cars have been in the .40's I think, and I'm sure someone can verify this, and possibly a couple of other cars. To begin with, they might have to give a small weight break to the sport compacts to make them competitive. I think in time, this could actually help the class, because more people will see how easy it is to go fast, and how much less it cost than a Mountain Motor. This alone could lead to company's coming out with aftermarket heads and blocks for the 2JZ, and then just imagine where it will go. I personally hope, they give it a shot. Just give them a small weight break is all they will need to get in the show..

 

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wow..

 

maybe consider NHRA PRO STOCK.....IHRA is a lil too much right now. but i like their thinking out of the box!

Based on NHRA PRO STOCK & PRO RWD Last qualifying ladder from this weekend.

Stephan Papadakis AEM '03 Civic 6.545@ 213.10&
1. Greg Anderson Summit Racing Equipment GTO 6.646 207.27
2. Jason Line Summit Racing Equipment GTO 6.663 208.17
3. Larry Morgan ZMax Stratus 6.668 206.70
4. Richie Stevens Mopar/Valspar Stratus 6.669 206.32
5. Erica Enders Slammers Cobalt 6.670 206.48
Matt Hartford Summit Racing '04 Cavalier 6.674 208.84
6. V. Gaines Kendall Oil Stratus 6.676 206.48
7. Allen Johnson J & J Racing Stratus 6.680 205.47
Brad Personett Titan Mail Order '05Scion 6.684 214.04
8. Warren Johnson GM Performance Parts GTO 6.684 206.99
9. Jim Yates Sea Ray GTO 6.684 206.35
10. Kurt Johnson AC Delco Cobalt 6.687 207.30
11. Dave Connolly Skull Gear Cobalt 6.688 206.07
12. Ron Krisher Valvoline Cobalt 6.691 206.61
13. Mike Edwards Young Life/A.R.T. GTO 6.691 205.85
14. Jeg Coughlin Jeg's Stratus 6.695 205.72
15. Greg Stanfield Piranaz Racing Cavalier 6.699 206.07
16. Dave Howard Indicom Racing Cobalt 6.707 206.07

the rest would not have made the cut


4. Ed Marx '05 Celica 6.778 207.08
5. Matt Scranton Garrett - Ride Revolution '04 6.809 204.82
6. Ara Arslanian Bullish Racing '02Solara 6.926 197.10
7. Vinny Ten '05 350Z 7.062 191.02
8. Manny Cruz '87 RX7 8.169 144.12

 

John Bartunek is a nitrous car, we did his motors when I worked at Musi's..and Tony Gillig has a supercharged mustang..so I they already allowing power adder cars? The addition of sportcompact pro cars or should I say the blending of domestic and import would in my opinion only be good for our sport as it will gain some much needed respect and support that we need from the domestic side of the sport.

 

i guess we saw a practice run of sorts of this at the beginning of the year at the bradenton us street nationals
personett, hartford, and scranton all qualified for outlaw street

i wonder if this is in response to the possibility of NHRA slowly integrating the prorwd cars into a limited class in the poweraide series, much like the pro mods(heard they may have as many as 20 races with NHRA next year)

maybe nhra has 20 races for prorwd cars, 10 as part of the Xplod series, and 10 standalone as part of the Poweraide Series

 

Look at the consistency gained this year v. last year as well as the times we have been seeing. What you also have to take into consideration is track preperation is much different at events such as Powerade and IHRA events, getting a car to go down the track quicker and more consistent on a track like this is easier. As for 6.40's Personett can do it, the car went a .44 on it's first test session making moves down the track before being turned down to "go rounds". As a matter of fact all 3 of the Titan cars have dipped into the 40's, given another year I think you could see some good compeition with the mountain motor cars, NHRA ProStock however would need to make some changes as recently the fastest qualifying ProRWD cars usually qualify a few tenths quicker on the same/track/ weekend. I personally wouldn't mind seeing them going to EFI. The sport is progressing and that's always a good thing.