To start out with, i have been on honda-tech for a while. I'm a mod on a few other sites, and really dont like seeing these kinds of threads. But i can honestly that i am in such a rut right now, that i really would like to read everyone's input. To start with, i have a 1992 dx hatch with a gs-r swap. Now, my piston rings have gone to ****, so i'd like to replace some of the oem parts with some aftermarket parts while i have it apart. Please keep in mind that i work at a shop, so labor is no cost at all. I'm looking at a budget of about 4,000 dollars, now here is my problem. I love turbo's, supercharger's, and all motor applications. Right now, i'm not looking for any certain power range, but i'd like to know where 4,000 dollars can put me in each category.

If i go turbo: I only want to replace the rods and pistons internally, then run about 8 pounds on the motor. So for a turbo application, what are my best options here?

If i go Stup0rcharged: I will also do a rod/piston combo, and slap on a jrsc and prolly run it at 6 psi.

If i go n/a: This is an application that leaves me stuck, because i'd love to build a b20/vtec. With maybe full bolt ons and a set of cams. So what are my best options in this application.

Now, i'm not asking which of these will make my car faster or anything, i'm honestly just looking for everyone's opinions to help me better make my desicion. This car is daily driven only about 20 miles each day. It will prolly be taken to the track about once every two months since i love drag racing at the track. And it may see an occassional autocross every 4 months or so.

So please, help out a fellow h-t member(not a n00b) on making my decision. This is a lot of money to spend, so i'd love to read all of your opinions, to make this a fun investment for me.

any links, opinions, and comments are very much welcome.

TIA.

-----Ryan

 

b20/vtec I would say, it's cheap good numbers.... alot of potential and. with 4g's you could make it reliable also.... I would say k20 honestly.. but you got 4g's, and I don't know how much you could get for your gsr.. but I'm saying

b20/vtec or just b20 then turbo it

 

I don't know how far that money would go to get a good FI setup. I am so leaning towards NA cause of my love for these motor types. And I would go this route just because the budget could cover it easily and you could have change, if you shop/spend wisely.

With that said, good move on the Spec-V.

 

thanks for the input guys.

and yea, the spec-v insurance raped me, besides, the car wasnt very well built, imho.

anyway, back on topic!

 

How about an H22 turbo? My friend has one and it's a crazy ride. Built and boosted with 18psi. I forget his numbers and his project cost so I'll ask him and get back to you. Honestly, it's a very reliable engine and he has had zero problems with it. It's fast in his teg, so I think it would do quite well in your 92 hatch.

 

thats seems like it would be a tad more than 4,000.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shift_Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats seems like it would be a tad more than 4,000.</TD></TR></TABLE> I asked him today and he said a little over $5000. I say save a little more and go big.

 

I would say, sell your engine and tranny as is and purchase a K20....

 

I'm personally a fan of the all motor.

 

I say save a bit more money and by a NA crate engine and be done.

 

All motor

 

if you already have the motor, and you do want to rebuild it. with 4 grand, and reliable i had a gsr supercharged JR and i loved it. Kicked alot of butt, and youll have fun with it.

 

thanks for all the input......

bump!

 

Personally I would pull the block apart and replace the rings and sell the GSR swap for $3000 then combine that with the money you already have and put a K series in it........and maybe the Toda package that adds 60hp

You could also re-build the GSR and go with aftermarket rods, pistons and better rod bolts ect. then turbo it. You should be able to put together a nice turbo kit for WELL UNDER $2K Check out homemadeturbo.com for info on boosting and buildign your own kit.

P.S. I have a T3, intercooler, injectors, bov and boost gauge for sale

 

Autocross and drag racing generally require completely different setups. 8.5:1 pistons and a bunch of boost are great for the drag strip, but lousy for autocross. 10-10.5:1 pistons with 6 PSI from a SC is great for autocross, but lousy for drag racing. There are some radical custom solutions that bridge the two, but not for $4000, closer to $10,000 (see my dual-sequential charger thread).

I autocross, drag race, and road course race, and have tried a bunch of different setups. Currently I'm part way through building a B20 stroker motor that I will use for all three types of racing, using it N/A for autocross and road course, with a nitrous setup on it for the drag strip, and that won't even be necessary if I stick to 1/8 mile tracks, but I won't. So here's my current opinion:

Option 1:
Eagle sells a 92mm stroke rotating assembly for $1500, get that with the 11.6:1 pistons for decent performance on premium pump gas. Gap the rings a bit wider and get some colder plugs for drag strip (nitrous) days. ARP Head and Main cap stud kits, good header for 600-1000, etc.

Option 2:
rods and pistons (stock compression), ARP stud kits, Jackson Racing has dropped the price on their JRSC kits to $2000, get the blower case, S-tube, and TB ported out for a few hundred, then run a 35 wet-shot pre-TB for drag strip days, cheapo Kamikaze header -w- Thermal exhaust, etc.

Option 3:
same as Option 2, but with a small turbo on a compact and efficient manifold (lovefab Mini-me EQ sells for $699) and no nitrous.

 

i'd say get some forged pistons and rods, and build your own turbo kit. If you can do the work yourself i think u can def. pull it off. Just make a custom turbo kit, find someone that knows what they're doing and have them make u and manifold too, thats what i did and its great. right now i have a jdm b16a2 and have a custom turbo kit on it with a t3/t04e 48 trim, all stock internals, running at 11 psi, making around 300hp, i luv it. its so much fun, just make sure you upgrade the suspension as well, like kyb agx's with ground control coilovers rear and front struts, yada yada yada.... thats what i did..

 

if you wanna do it the cheap and easy way sell your current motor parts, and buy the BEAST. look it up you'll find, should be more than enough power. dont remember which dist. sells them im thinking jegs, summit or jcwhitney

 

NA

 

TURBO: Pistons/Rods/Blockguard-$800, manifold/WG- $600, turbo- $600, intercooler/BOV/piping- $700, injectors- $200, Hondata/tuning-$600 ==$2900, that leaves $1100 for exhaust, guages, BC, turbo timer, and all that 93 octane you have to buy. You can run like 15psi high boost and you will have like 350hp. No brainer