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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Its a '93 EG Hatch w/ '95 LS swap. I just had a complete tune up (oil, plugs, wires, flush and fill) and the damn thing started and ran for like 10 minutes. While running, I pulled out the FAR spark plug to see if it needed to be replaced and then it jerked and lagged and DIED! I put the plug back in and went to go start the car once more. This time, it kicked in and kicked in but dint start. What happened? Can someone help me?? One guy, props to jlacoy82, says that maybe i exerted too much stress on my womulator shaft by unbalancing the load. Honestly, I dont even know what the freak that is but if it is that then Im gonna fix it (i am just starting a job tomorrow). If anyone knows of any other known or unknown problem(s) with my LS, please let me know ASAP!! Thank you sooooooooooo much!!
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Maybe you flooded the cylinder. If you take out the spark plug while the motor is running, it will still spray fuel in there which won't get ignited. Maybe you put so much fuel that now the gas takes out the spark before it has a chance to ignite the gas. Try retarding the timing close to TDC and see if that helps you burn the excess gas in the cylinder... then you can move the timing back to where it was once it's all good.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DELshow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its a '93 EG Hatch w/ '95 LS swap. I just had a complete tune up (oil, plugs, wires, flush and fill) and the damn thing started and ran for like 10 minutes. While running, I pulled out the FAR spark plug to see if it needed to be replaced and then it jerked and lagged and DIED! I put the plug back in and went to go start the car once more. This time, it kicked in and kicked in but dint start. What happened? Can someone help me?? One guy, props to jlacoy82, says that maybe i exerted too much stress on my womulator shaft by unbalancing the load. Honestly, I dont even know what the freak that is but if it is that then Im gonna fix it (i am just starting a job tomorrow). If anyone knows of any other known or unknown problem(s) with my LS, please let me know ASAP!! Thank you sooooooooooo much!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you are in the right direction with womulator shaft
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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did you happen to arch the plug wire up against anything during this time? i have fried my coil once by doing this. too much load on the coil. check there
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Listen to jlacoy82. Womulator shafts are a bitch. They're made of husk fiber and tend to break in the event of a unbalanced load.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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hey guys......lets really help him out....
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Fine...

Listen...the womulator shafts available from the honda dealer suck. The part is still defective and will break on you. Go to the BMW dealer, and ask for the 2001-2005 M3 womulator shaft. Its a direct bolt in and will last a lot longer
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fine...

Listen...the womulator shafts available from the honda dealer suck. The part is still defective and will break on you. Go to the BMW dealer, and ask for the 2001-2005 M3 womulator shaft. Its a direct bolt in and will last a lot longer </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fine...

Listen...the womulator shafts available from the honda dealer suck. The part is still defective and will break on you. Go to the BMW dealer, and ask for the 2001-2005 M3 womulator shaft. Its a direct bolt in and will last a lot longer </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? I heard the womulator shaft from the 83 corvette is the best? Any confirmation?
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ClubDownforce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really? I heard the womulator shaft from the 83 corvette is the best? Any confirmation? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I've actually tried both, but the BMW version lasts much longer seeing as how it's german and all.

M3 Womulator shaft:
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rand0m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've actually tried both, but the BMW version lasts much longer seeing as how it's german and all.

M3 Womulator shaft: </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea the womulator shaft from the corvette crapped out on me after 2 months

went to bmw, havent had a prolem since
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rand0m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've actually tried both, but the BMW version lasts much longer seeing as how it's german and all.

M3 Womulator shaft: </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? Because the 83 Corvette was an excellent car.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ClubDownforce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really? Because the 83 Corvette was an excellent car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
oh they were excellent cars, as long as you had bank to replace the womulator shaft every 8k miles
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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oh they were excellent cars, as long as you had bank to replace the womulator shaft every 8k miles </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it adds up, but thats the price I pay to be a baller.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_driver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe you flooded the cylinder. If you take out the spark plug while the motor is running, it will still spray fuel in there which won't get ignited. Maybe you put so much fuel that now the gas takes out the spark before it has a chance to ignite the gas. Try retarding the timing close to TDC and see if that helps you burn the excess gas in the cylinder... then you can move the timing back to where it was once it's all good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wtf are you babbling about?

it's obviously the womulator shaft. if you replace that and it still doesn't start you probably didn't grease it enough. happened to me the first time i had to replace that piece. it's a quick and easy job though, any shop should be able to get the part and do it for less than 60 bucks. or you could get the part yourself and figure it out. it's pretty easy once you get the dizzy off.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fine...

Listen...the womulator shafts available from the honda dealer suck. The part is still defective and will break on you. Go to the BMW dealer, and ask for the 2001-2005 M3 womulator shaft. Its a direct bolt in and will last a lot longer </TD></TR></TABLE>

NO ****? that's news to me. i wish i would have known that 2 months ago. i think i'll stop out there when this one breaks.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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The wormulator shaft is easy to change. Just remeber to grease it well. The more you grease it the better it work. Now dont over grease it will just mess it up.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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Ok this might be a stupid question but... wtf is a womulator shaft and what the hell does it do ???
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kaeolian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok this might be a stupid question but... wtf is a womulator shaft and what the hell does it do ??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

its what connects the distributor to the cam blower pulley...they're pieces of **** in the ls motor because honda made them out of poor materials.

a few people have been known to use other manufacturers wom shafts because they hold up a lot better. like one guy said its best to go with M3 wom shafts. its pretty much a universal part.

best way i can describe it is like using suzuki grand vitara pistons in a single cam honda..universal.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kaeolian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok this might be a stupid question but... wtf is a womulator shaft and what the hell does it do ??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

and by the way its not a stupid question..most people have no ****** idea what it is until it takes a crap on them.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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So did you call Honda to order your Womulator yet?
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RotiEatter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So did you call Honda to order your Womulator yet?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm wondering the same thing.

You should do it ASAP:thumbup
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Did you guys read my post?! Seriously...the 01+ M3 womulator shaft is better.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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This is unbelievable.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Like I said...GReddy is making a titanium wom shaft to go with their LS turbo kit. Saves 35 grams of rotating mass, and helps full boost hit about 500 rpm sooner. Anyone have it yet?
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