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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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I have a 1992 Honda civic SI with a 1999 b18c1 in my car. I want to remove the power steerign however I do not want to replace the whole sttering rack. Can I just "loop" the hose back into the rack and get rid of everything else? I dont drive the car but maybe once every two weeks so I am not too worried about it being to stiff. Has anyone already done this?. Any help is appriciated.


What two do I loop? What do I do with the third line?


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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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You could just remove all of the lines and plug them at the rack. Many people have done this, as have I, and it seems to work fine.

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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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damn, i want power steering in my car... after driving my brother's car for two weeks while i take care of some maintanence on my manual steer i have to say i want power steering in mine.... those fast corners are tough with a manual steer rack... i guess routed power steering rack would be the best thing so i might buy a power steering rack and route the lines to replace my steering rack when it starts breaking down
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_driver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn, i want power steering in my car... after driving my brother's car for two weeks while i take care of some maintanence on my manual steer i have to say i want power steering in mine.... those fast corners are tough with a manual steer rack... i guess routed power steering rack would be the best thing so i might buy a power steering rack and route the lines to replace my steering rack when it starts breaking down</TD></TR></TABLE>

I haven't noticed a difference with my car without p/s.

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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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would a looped power steering rack (no ps pump) make a difference compared to a manual steering rack?
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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btw, to answer your question, yes you can loop on the rack, just not sure the difference in steering after the mod...

here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=184202
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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BUMP FOR HELP WITH THE PIC AND WHAT TWO TO LOOP AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE THIRD ONE!!!
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a detailed write-up on this in this months (or maybe it was last month's) issue of Honda Tuning. They looped it on a hype-R, but same principle.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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i drive a a car without power steering everyday, and if i had the choice i would definetly leave it in. whats a few pounds seriously. go on a diet to make up the differents.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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If its last months how am I soppoused to get it?
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92-LS-Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i drive a a car without power steering everyday, and if i had the choice i would definetly leave it in. whats a few pounds seriously. go on a diet to make up the differents. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it's not JSUT the weight
it's also the fact that the engine is turning an extra belt instead of your wheel

power steering = power stealing
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cu_jarrett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUMP FOR HELP WITH THE PIC AND WHAT TWO TO LOOP AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE THIRD ONE!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

You really want to loop all three. The Honda-Tuning article isn't going to be of much help, since it applies to the Integra rack which has only two main fittings, not three like the 5th gen. Civic has.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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store...
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You really want to loop all three. The Honda-Tuning article isn't going to be of much help, since it applies to the Integra rack which has only two main fittings, not three like the 5th gen. Civic has.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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im just saying, its a nice thing to have. Mostly when in a parking lot. I have absolutely no clue how much power its robbing but i think it cant be all that much. if you have it, id just keep it. imo
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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its very hard to turn the wheel on a car that originally came with power steering than one that didnt. its how theyre made. unless your building a strict racecar i would advise keeping it. IMO
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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**** man i have a del sol with a b18c1, and i would love power steering..and u gettin rid of it..lol thas some ****
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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i guess a looped power steering rack without the pump to confiscate power from the engine would be the ideal solution.... i think that's what i'm gonna do when mine goes south
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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PM user Padawan about his PS Removal Kits
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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i had a B16B in my EK coupe, and it came with a bent power steering pulley, so it was useless, now on mine there were only 2 line to loop, i dont kno how much different the eg is, but it has to be pretty similar. i basically cut the hard lines off like 2 inches back from where the fittings bolt up to the rack. now 1 fitting i believe was a 1/4 inch line, and the other fitting was a 5/16 line. i ran a 5/16 line from 1 to the other, but after a day of steering the 5/16 line slipped off of the 1/4 fitting. solution, got 1/4 and 51/6 line, went to ace hardware and got a reducer fittin used for plumbing. its basically 2 barbed male ends, 1, 1/4 and the other 5/16. put lines on filled up both sides of the lines with fluid and put together. never had an issue since. hope i was somewhat helpful
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Screwtape: &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PM user Padawan about his PS Removal Kits </TD></TR></TABLE>

money well spent IMO..
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrturbojohn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its very hard to turn the wheel on a car that originally came with power steering than one that didnt. its how theyre made. unless your building a strict racecar i would advise keeping it. IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would advise you hit the gym girly man

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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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my daily driver does not have power steering, but my race car does....
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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The Internet Tough Guy, I've always thought that you have the best name and avatar on HT!
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