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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Ok so the whole hard problem with bleeding brakes is that you do not want air to get sucked back in to the caliper. that can cause major problems that can ultimately lead to you crashing your car.

so lets review the purpose of bleeding your brakes:
to fill the fluid lines with 100% fluid; no air whatsoever.

here we have a couple of options ( if you are bleeding brakes yourself)
#1- speed bleeders. they are replacement bleeder valves that have a built in check valve ( allows fluid to flow only one way - out)
#2- this super cool trick daddy easy way that involves the use of a clear tube and a 10mm wrench.

Tools needed:
10mm closed end wrench ( you should already have one )
10-12 inches of clear tubing (small enough to slide over the bleeder valve. and clear lets you see how much fluid is in the tube)


first some explaining. first, take the top off the brake master cyl. this allows for easy monitoring of the fluid levels. you'll want to stage everything up so you can close the bleeder valve soon as you can. so for this, slide a 10mm closed end wrench over the bleeder valve, and open it up.
next, slide a piece of tubing over the bleeder valve opening. make sure it goes on there snug.
now, while monitoring brake fluid level, pump until you see the tube fill about half way full.

now you can close the bleeder valve, and wipe excess fluids up.

bada bing, bada boom. done.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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nice try but if your gonna do a diy youre gonna need all the info, like which side to start at and which order you go in.

and you definately need a new title, when i read it i was under the inpression that this was a write up that i would be able to do alone.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Default Re: DIY: NEW Easy way to bleed brakes yourself!! (93ejay1)

you can do this alone!! when your done pumping the brakes, get up, walk around to the caliper, and tighten the bleeder valve.

and i made the instructions as detailed as they need to be. not wiping any asses here, just putting out a new method.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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then you obviously dont know how to bleed brakes properly. when you pump the brakes to build pressure you have to hold it, you cant just get up.

you dont open the valve then pump the brakes, you pump the brakes then you open the valve!!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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nice drawing! very detailed, no joke.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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your not supposed to build pressure when bleeding brakes. when you first start your car you pump a couple times to build pressure for the first time.

besides, its a fluid. fluids can not be compressed.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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hes trying to help, so why do you people have to be so damn offensive.. you act like he just smacked your sister or something, ****.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Default Re: DIY: NEW Easy way to bleed brakes yourself!! (SkRiBLaH)

ok then how come when everyone bleeds their brakes they pump their brakes then open the valve and when the pedal drops they close the valve and then repeat?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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i've done that before... but for my clutch.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C2daIzZle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hes trying to help, so why do you people have to be so damn offensive.. you act like he just smacked your sister or something, ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>
all im doing is asking questions cuz i was never taught this way nor were anyone that i know that knows how to bleed brakes.

what hes saying is you open the valve, pump the brakes, get out of the car and close the valve. i have never heard of anyone doing it this way
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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the whole reason you pump and hold, is because you dont want fluid coming back through the bleeder valve.

by doing it this way, you can pump, get up out of the car walk around and close the valve. and if it sucks anything back through the bleeder valve, it will be the brake fluid thats in the hose!

100% fool proof.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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hmm ive been needing to bleed my brakes for a while but dont have any friends, i think ill try this out
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Taken from helms:

1. Have someone slowly pump the brake pedal several times then apply steady pressure.
2. Loosen the brake bleed screw to allow air to escape from the system. Then tighten the bleed screw securely.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Taken from helms:

1. Have someone slowly pump the brake pedal several times then apply steady pressure.
2. Loosen the brake bleed screw to allow air to escape from the system. Then tighten the bleed screw securely.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the way i have ALWAYS done it, and never had a problem.

as for the method you described, i'm not completely saying that you are wrong, but i'm sorry, it makes no sense to me. none. and i do believe that i know a little something about cars. anyway, if there is something i missed and dont understand, explain again, b/c i dont get it.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Default Re: DIY: NEW Easy way to bleed brakes yourself!! (SkRiBLaH)

meh Id give this write up a B could easily be a A, but I think you left a few things out, mainly the order in which to bleed the brakes in, that is very important. Also to be a true write up and not just a refference you need all the steps whether there no brainers or not.

Also this isent a new methode just an mostly unknown one. Personally I prefer the two person methode but this one works the same.

As for the comment about building up pressure earlier your really not compressing the fluid but keeping it under pressure to force the air out of the lines.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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in a perfect world with tons of friends all wielding torque wrenches set at exact specs. and manuals all over the place with every single specialty tool you could imagine, this would not be the best route.

but when its 11PM, you dont have anyone helping you, and you dont have access to any other car and your tool choices are limited, this method is the best.

like i said before. take this how you want it, and stop bashing it. im just throwing a new idea out there.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Default Re: DIY: NEW Easy way to bleed brakes yourself!! (SkRiBLaH)

Here's an idea of how to reword it:

Tools Needed:
10mm wrench (preferably box end)
Length of tubing (Clear is preferred)
Open Top Container (20oz empty clear soda is good - Clean Thoroughly!)
Fresh Brake Fluid (See Owners Manual for correct type)

Step 1:
Fill brake reservoir with brake fluid.
Step 2:
Fill your container half way with brake fluid.
Step 3:
loosen bleeder screw
Step 4:
Attach clear tubing to bleeder screw and submerge other end in container
Step 5:
Pump brakes a few times until fluid runs clear
Step 6:
Tighten bleeder screw
Step 7:
Fill brake reservoir if needed
Step 8:
Repeat Steps 3 - 7 until finished
Step 9:
Road test the vehicle.


It is your write up so you can do it however you want, I'm just trying to make it noob friendly so you dont get 100 pm about how to do something
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Taken from helms:

1. Have someone slowly pump the brake pedal several times then apply steady pressure.
2. Loosen the brake bleed screw to allow air to escape from the system. Then tighten the bleed screw securely.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's only if you use regular bleeder screws. If you use the speed bleeder's you don't have to hold the pedal.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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you dont have any friends that you could call and have come over for 20 mins and pump the brakes? it doesnt even have to be a guy and everytime i bleed my brakes or my friends car we just use a wrench and clear hose, you dont need " tons of friends all wielding torque wrenches set at exact specs. and manuals all over the place with every single specialty tool you could imagine"

all you need is 1 friend, a wrench, hose, something to drain the fluid into, brake fluid and 30 mins
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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My dad helps me with my brakes when I need it. My dad!!!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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well one time my gf helped by pumping the brakes for me.

my gf!!!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Ya u really need a second friend to help. The clear tube I use as well, it lets u see if any air is really in the caliper. Have friend pump pedal till it gets hard, and have him hold it. Then u loosen the bleeder screw, unitl your friend yells and says that the pedal has just touched the floor, then u close the valve. Repeat as many times as u feel necessary per caliper. I believe the correct order is to bleed from the caliper farthest from the master cylinder to the closest. So its RR-RL-FR-FL
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rukawa1one &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I believe the correct order is to bleed from the caliper farthest from the master cylinder to the closest. So its RR-RL-FR-FL</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats correct for like every cars BUT HONDA although ive never had a problem doing it that way.

but honda has some cross **** where you start at the closest to the master cylinder.

i think its like FL-RR-FR-RL
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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I like vacuum pumps for diy bleeding
cheaper than speed bleeders and just as effective
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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In Helms:

Pass Rear
Driver Front
Driver Rear
Pass Front
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