hey guys, time to do up another hatch. last hatch was just a stock gsr with 75 shot. wondering if i build the gsr top and bottom, how much notrous u think as a rough guess would u think it would take safely.

 

hell i have shot 185 on a stock oem parts built ls/vtec...but that's not the best yet.
we are spraying 400 direct port pro race fogger...out of the hole.car runs 7.12 spinning to the 330 and pulls 1.52 60's in an @104... in an 1/8 w/no cutting done what so ever...just the p/s seat and back seat out.


this is a b20 w/stock sleeves w/a welded in block guard.scat rods and wiesco pistons 11:5:1...head has ferrea valves springs retainers and gsr cams.

nitrous does not blow motors up...THE TUNER DOES.


harv


Modified by 1700anddroping at 1:33 PM 9/22/2005

 

Can you send me some of that **** you're smokin?

 

who you to talking *** hole.....anytime you want some of this car or of me.come to the crossville tn track.and bring your money w/you.you obivously do not have a clue as to who i am...so i advise you to keep your ******* mouth shut.


harv

 

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i guess this is set up is a lie also.....you know man it's people like you that make
me a very violent person...but then i realize YOU don't have a ******* CLUE...as to what you are talking about.


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harv

 

I say bring it on brother, if you're getting violent over internet converstations you might have some issues!!!!

 

lookin at the block and pistons , I would say easy 100 shot direct port. Don't use a dry or fogger kit. Direct port is the way to go. I have SRP forged pistons and eagle rods, and I run 100 shot NXL Direct Port Kit with no worries.

 

crossville? is that around the cookeville area? and if so are we talking about a yellow ek? if so, i think you raced my friends silver evo about a month ago in nashville. send me a pm, i'd like some info of the track you were talking about.

 

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any time you want some.......just come down and you can get all you want.....plus you fucked up when you o-ringed that block....but you will soon learn that.and if you think that **** you have is a match for my 2.4L deck plated set up...then put your money where your mouth is...as far as issues......i don't like people talking **** when they have no clue....all they want to say is some bull **** to get started.i never run from a fight.so I AM TELLING YOU......THIS CAR SPRAYS 400 DIRECT PORT AND IF YOU WANT SOME COME GET IT...better yet it is also for sale.but it did have a 300 on it...but that was with a gsr plate system...but it kept bending the butterfly in the throttle body...and bending the bars on the plate system


yes it is the yellow ek that beat the 460+ evo on i-65.....the track in question is in crossville and it is just off the i/s and it is the best 1/8 mile track around...hell in tn for that matter.just pm me for details on how to get to it.


harv

 

yo dont talk **** if you cant back it up my boy Harv knows his ****

 

talk to harv he knows his **** trust me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1700anddroping &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any time you want some.......just come down and you can get all you want.....plus you fucked up when you o-ringed that block....but you will soon learn that.and if you think that **** you have is a match for my 2.4L deck plated set up...then put your money where your mouth is...as far as issues......i don't like people talking **** when they have no clue....all they want to say is some bull **** to get started.i never run from a fight.so I AM TELLING YOU......THIS CAR SPRAYS 400 DIRECT PORT AND IF YOU WANT SOME COME GET IT...better yet it is also for sale.but it did have a 300 on it...but that was with a gsr plate system...but it kept bending the butterfly in the throttle body...and bending the bars on the plate system


yes it is the yellow ek that beat the 460+ evo on i-65.....the track in question is in crossville and it is just off the i/s and it is the best 1/8 mile track around...hell in tn for that matter.just pm me for details on how to get to it.


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Iv got the gsr plate and i thought you can only go up to a 200 shot with that ... and how or why was it it bending the butterfly in the TB ?? not fighting just asking.

and does anyone know of a EMS like uber data that has nitrous controls ?

 

what line are you running from your solinoid to the plate and what bottle pressure...n o s under rates there stuff dramatically.my guess on the butter fly is the bottle pressure we are using and the amount of spray we are using.


the s200 has the nitrous option..also i think neptune does to but not sure.


harv

 

Dude you might need to smoke a doob or something, I was just shootin sarcasm at you anyways. Who in their right mind would race a hatch in a 3000lb type sh anyways. I'm not into drag racing, find it quite retarded actually, takes away from what my car was built for.

Anyways Golden Eagle never responds to my emails so will you tell me why it's not a good idea to O-ring the block because truely I don't know but I've had a bit of fuel in my oil before, could be the reason but I don't know! I've went through a few HG and never even bothered replacing that O-ring because Golden Eagle will never call me back so I can order a new one!

 

i don't smoke dope...who said anything about an prelude sh"is that what you have"just asking.it was an evo we raced....it was over from the start.the evo was really surprized.


well don't know what to tell you about ge...but every time you take that head off.that o-ring should be replaced.as far as fuel....what kind of ems do you have.sounds like you are flooding the motor w/fuel and it is not tuned properly.


the problem w/o-ring is....if you ever have to rebuild.you have to take the o-ring i would say all they way out...because it would be so thin at the top of the sleeve it would shatter.what you should have done was step deck.they bring the sleeve about .002 to .003 above deck and the thickness of the sleeve is the o-ring,instead of a piece of wire.i am not saying in any way your block is junk....because i think it looks awesome from what i have seen of it.


yeah sometimes i do get a little hot headed....this roid **** does that just depending on the mood i am in.but ask anyone on here.i am usually easy going and always willing to help.


harv

 

Yeah I attempted to build a killer all motor car, I do have a type sh! I wasn't hoping to rebuild for a long time so the O-ring should be ok. I know I should replace it. Do you know what's involved in doing that or how you get the old crushed down o-ring out of the top of the sleeves? Also how do you install the new one?

I'm thinking about selling that block and just putting a stock motor back in the car. I don't think I'm flooding the car because on the mustang dyno it was tuned on the air/fuel was decent. My timing and fuel are computer controlled no matter what. I've got RC 440's in there but it had fuel in the oil with the stock 290's?

We're cool man, sometimes people get all jacked out of shape because they take internet type the wrong way. All I know is the GE block was guaranteed good up to 70 psi and 1300 hp on sleeve cracking for the life of the motor. Why in the hell did I go all motor

 

removing the o-ring is simple.....there is a little gap in the o-ring.....just take a sharp pick or something a small point on it.tap untill you have gotten under the o-ring...then just follow the groove.it will come out real easy or should.


now about installing the o-ring.just get it started and just peck it into place.but you want to leave a less of a gap as possible.i usually over cut it and then trim it down to make it almost gapless.if you have had that head off...you need to replace that o-ring.


having 440's means nothing.....i still think you are getting to much fuel..or other wise you would not have fuel in your oil.is your car starting to smoke..if so i would say you have egg shaped your cylinder walls.


you could take that motor you have now and go turbo.....it is not as hard as you think.i know i have done it.


harv

 

I don't think the walls are egg shaped, the car doesn't smoke at all or use any oil! I figured there's not much to changing that o-ring. Do you have to use any type of adhesive on it? I've actually had the head off twice and never replaced it due to GE's lack of customer service. I'd never again give them a dollar of my money! Another thing that might have caused the fuel to get in the oil is I had the pressure turned down to about 23 psi because of having the 440's in there. The tuner told me that's not good because the fuel spray pattern probably was puddling in the intake manifold and running down the cylinder walls. I still have hone on them and compression was still nominal so we will see. I'm putting a stock head on the car to see if it will eliminate any of this. If I have to rehone or bore ever I will pull the 11.5 to 1 JE's and drop 9.5 to 1's in and turbo it. Anyways this isn't my thread but I do appreciate the help!

 

23lbs of fuel pressure is way to low.....plus i pm'd you.


harv

 

i went 11.1@125 on my built gsr on a 180 shot. ended up putting a 300 shot, but never ran it at the track.. this was a sleeved 84mm 14 to 1 compression motor with big cams and a 2 stage nos set up. car made close to 500hp on the dyno ripping the tires loose

 

Yeah I know the tuner said he felt a lot more comfortable with the pressure upwards of 40-43 psi but I was afraid it would spray way to much fuel and wash my walls!

 

thats why you cut down inj duty in stead of fuel pressure.....


hey cubish what's up.


harv

 

Haha I'm still learning man, all I could afford at this point in time was the vafc. I was going to go standalone or hondata but I've got a type sh and I'd prefer not to lose the atts. I'm putting stock injectors, stock cams, stock cam gears, and stock valvetrain back on the bish and calling it a day. It's been 2 years really since I drove it!

I've thought about just selling the whole damn setup, tranny, block, head and all and just buying a stock h22a from hmotorsonline and purchasing the lsd tranny along with it. The car is to beautiful not to drive!

 

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the s200 has the nitrous option..also i think neptune does to but not sure.


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whatever came with the kit and 950-1000psi.... what should i be running ???
neptune you cant edit your self ... and yes from what i under stand is that it does have n20 controll and jeff evens that tunes it is awsom at tuning turbo car not sure about n2o ... im running a stock gsr motor with 100 shot on the plate now ... just have headstuds... i was thinking about putting some c-16 and run stock timing but im not sure how it will run ... i want to chip my ecu with like uberdata so i can controll the fuel a lil bit i dont know if i should go bigger then the 100 shot though ... i have a block gaurd but dont know if i should install it because i keep hearing probs with them... im new to the n2o world i was a big turbo guy before

 

we are running a 97 stock gsr computer w/the set up we are spraying 400 on.the first thing you need to do.is get the motor in tip top shape tuning wise.the nitrous has it's own fuel supply.

now as far as block guards...we have not had any problems what so ever.but i will leave that up to you.i am running both turbo and nitrous and i cain't wait to see what she does.....


as far as stock timing on a 100 shot......that is fine but you better add some fuel in there w/it to keep the temps down caused from peak cylinder pressure.what alot of people do not understand....is nitrous needs constant and i mean constant fuel pressure.one 255 will not cut it...as the motor starts to rev the fuel pressure will drop.so that is why you add a 2nd inline pump on a seperate switch.so that when you get ready to spray you turn it on and the fuel pressure will stay constant.


but if you are going to do it right...you need a dedicated fuel pump and line soley for the nitrous and a adj. reg.once you figure it out man it is all gravy.


as far as shot wise...just start small and work your way big.we go thru 2 full bottles in about 3-4 hrs...... spraying what we spray.oh before i forget.900 is what nos says is optimum for the spray to atomise...well all i can say is bull ****.we have went as far as 1350 psi bottle pressure.of course we take the safety valve out and put a plug in.if you want to see the difference.take your bottle to 1100 or 1200 and FEEL the difference.


harv


ask cubish he knows don't you cube.