Wire comes out very curved on my Mig and makes it hard to stay consistent!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:39 AM
  #1  
Jonathan_ED3's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,651
Likes: 3
From: Dallas, Tejas
Default Wire comes out very curved on my Mig and makes it hard to stay consistent!

I've been playing around with my brothers Hobart Handler 140, and the problem is that the wire comes out so curved it's hard to aim and stay consistent because it jumps all over the place.

Does anybody else have this problem?

What can I do to rectify the situation?
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:49 AM
  #2  
discrete's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO, USA
Default

Whats making it come out curved?
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:01 PM
  #3  
Jonathan_ED3's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,651
Likes: 3
From: Dallas, Tejas
Default

I guess it's curved from being tightly wound on the wire roll.

It's so curved that as it's feeding out it's touching the bottom of the tip and it keeps fusing onto it.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:24 PM
  #4  
2old_honda's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
From: NE
Default Re: (Jonathan_ED3)

thats not right. either the tip is too small for your wire, or its clogged with a chunk of slag. Replace the tip.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:33 PM
  #5  
Jonathan_ED3's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,651
Likes: 3
From: Dallas, Tejas
Default

It has been doing this since it was brand new.

I think the problem may be the tip is too large for the wire? And it's not holding it tight and kind of letting it bounce around as it leaves the tip?

I just gave up using it and am using my Hobart 200 instead. No problems there. It welds so much nicer!
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:45 PM
  #6  
RCautoworks's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 17,227
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Default Re: (Jonathan_ED3)

Could be the tip, are you sure the slack on the wire is good ? I have seen wire that was on there to tight, and the wire itself would jump a little .
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:18 PM
  #7  
Jonathan_ED3's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,651
Likes: 3
From: Dallas, Tejas
Default

I'll check that.

My brother was having pretty good luck with this Handler to do his turbo piping...maybe I'll ask him when he gets home if he had it setup differently than me.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:08 PM
  #8  
HickamHatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,833
Likes: 0
From: North Texas
Default

make sure your gun cord is straight as possible and doesn't have any tight turns.. i only have the problem when i don't stretch out my cord before i weld...
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2005 | 06:40 PM
  #9  
sCeRaXn's Avatar
Honda-Tech Double Platinum Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,293
Likes: 0
From: high point, nc, usa
Default Re: (93civic96ls)

If the tip was too small the wire would start to back up and youd eventually geta birds nest in the feeder. If the tip is too big it wouldnt curve out...it would jump around all over the place. I think its the wire tension. Go reset the tension and check deflection. Im almost positive that this is the problem. Hope this helps
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2005 | 06:58 PM
  #10  
Jonathan_ED3's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,651
Likes: 3
From: Dallas, Tejas
Default

How can that change the curvature of the wire as it leaves the tip?

The wire is jumping around because the wire comes out with such an extreme curve.

I've checked everything else...the problem has to be with the wire spool. It's so tightly wound that even away from the actual spool it's still very curved.

I'm pretty sure if i switch to a larger spool I won't have this problem.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:32 PM
  #11  
Engloid's Avatar
OG Fabricator
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, tn, 37912
Default Re: (Jonathan_ED3)

It could have a damaged liner in it that is kinked and causing the wire to get this way.

Also try swapping spools of wire. I have seen some cheaper wires that seemed to do some crazy ****....maybe due to shitty equipment that rolled it on or something....I dunno for sure.

Or try swapping the entire leads from one machine to the other if they will.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:51 PM
  #12  
ComputerJLT's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Texas, USA
Default Re: (Engloid)

could it bee the rollers being tightened too much?

i've never had that problem with my lincoln; and i've used some of the cheapest wire you can get
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2005 | 12:41 PM
  #13  
sCeRaXn's Avatar
Honda-Tech Double Platinum Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,293
Likes: 0
From: high point, nc, usa
Default Re: (Jonathan_ED3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can that change the curvature of the wire as it leaves the tip?

The wire is jumping around because the wire comes out with such an extreme curve.

I've checked everything else...the problem has to be with the wire spool. It's so tightly wound that even away from the actual spool it's still very curved.

I'm pretty sure if i switch to a larger spool I won't have this problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The wire is supposed to "curve" when it leaves the tip. Not instantly...but when it gets out a few inches it should curve. Thats called deflection. If it curves too much or too soon then you most likely have too much tension on the wire. If the wire is jumping around then you most likely have too big of a contact tip or you have an ovalized tip. It is impossible for the wire to "jump around" if youve got the correct tip on it. If you look at the tip where the wire comes out youll be able to see if its ovalized or not. As i said before...check the wire tension.

Also...i agree with Engloid. Ive seen cheap wire have too much deflection for the amount of tension it has. If the tip is good and the tension is good then a new spool should be the next thing you check.

Once again...Good Luck
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:12 PM
  #14  
patatron's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: Sammamish, WA, United States
Default Re: (Jonathan_ED3)

This often happens from the drive roller tension being to tight.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RPM JDM
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
1
Nov 2, 2009 06:14 PM
San-Wan
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
6
Sep 30, 2008 07:28 AM
supercreed2002
Welding / Fabrication
4
Mar 15, 2006 09:45 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:54 AM.